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Fire and Fury

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urabunchcats --- 293 days ago -

Go TEAM TRUMP!

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jackass --- 293 days ago -

Spam 

Butterbean --- 292 days ago -

"The next day Kellyanne Conway, her aggressive posture during the campaign turning more and more to petulance and self-pity, asserted the new president's right to claim "alternative facts." As it happened, Conway meant to say "alternative information," which at least would imply there might be additional data. But as uttered, it certainly sounded like the new administration was claiming the right to recast reality. Which, in a sense, it was. Although, in Conway's view, it was the media doing the recasting, making a mountain (hence-fake news.) out of a molehill (an honest minor exaggeration, albeit of vast proportions."
- Michael Wolff, Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House 

Butterbean --- 291 days ago -

"Moreover, his relatives acted as ad hoc general managers of whatever areas they might choose to be general managers in. Then there was Bannon, conducting something of an alternate-universe operation, often launching far-reaching undertakings that no one else knew about. And thus Priebus, at the center of an operation that had no center, found it easy to think there was no reason for him to be there at all."

- Wolff, Michael. Fire and Fury- Inside the Trump White House. 

Butterbean --- 291 days ago -

I'm about half way. It seems to be a very well written book about a very bad movie without a plot or sense of direction.

The wording is precise and absolutely believable. Such detail, without fear of a libel suit, indicates first hand observations. 

Butterbean --- 291 days ago -

"Trump, observed Walsh, had a set of beliefs and impulses, much of them on his mind for many years, some of them fairly contradictory, and little of them fitting legislative or political conventions or form. Hence, she and everyone else was translating a set of desires and urges into a program, a process that required a lot of guess work. It was, said Walsh, "like trying to figure out what a child wants."

- Wolff, Michael: Fire and Fury- Inside the Trump White House. 

SoupIsGoodFood --- 290 days ago -

"Many of the accounts of what has happened in the Trump White House are in conflict with one another; many, in Trumpian fashion, are baldly untrue. These conflicts, and that looseness with the truth, if not with reality itself, are an elemental thread of the book.

"Sometimes I have let the players offer their versions, in turn allowing the reader to judge them. In other instances I have, through a consistency in the accounts and through sources I have come to trust, settled on a version of events I believe to be true."

-Michael Wolff, Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House. 

fuzz81 --- 289 days ago -

I?m happy to see soup is now providing quotes indicating that trump is a liar. 

SoupIsGoodFood --- 289 days ago -

LOL @ fuzzballs reading comprehension. 

jackass --- 289 days ago -

LOL @ soups confirmation bias... 

fuzz81 --- 288 days ago -

many, in Trumpian fashion, are baldly untrue

- Soup, ex trump lover 

Prolix Raconteur --- 285 days ago -

HAHA Classic! Author Michael Wolf kicked off MSNBC Morning Joe mid interview, calling out his book as phony and him a sexist for impugning Nikki Haley. On MSNBC of all places?!?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mika-bzezinski-kicks-michael-wolff-off-morning-joe-mid-interview 

SoupIsGoodFood --- 285 days ago -

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA............

More liberal fail.

These guys can't catch a break. 

fuzz81 --- 285 days ago -

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SoupIsGoodFood --- 285 days ago -

It's been Mueller time for quite a while now.

Is it ever going to bear the fruit liberals are hoping for? 

jackass --- 285 days ago -

How long did the Starr investigation last? 

Prolix Raconteur --- 285 days ago -

No matter; Mueller and Rosenstein will be looking for work once that FISA memo hits the press.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-31/game-over-adam-schiff-says-memo-could-lead-firings-mueller-rosenstein 

jackass --- 285 days ago -

Ahhh the new Teflon Don...what a country!!! 

Butterbean --- 285 days ago -

Ahhh, the makings of another book.

I've been derelict in my postings. I'll have to step up my game. 

Butterbean --- 285 days ago -

"It was Ryan who, with "repeal and replace,"obfuscated the issue and won over Trump. Repeal would satisfy the Republican bottom line, while replace would satisfy the otherwise off-the-cuff pledges that Trump had made on his own. (Pay no attention to the likelihood that what the president construed as repeal and replace might be very different from what Ryan construed as repeal and replace.) "Repeal and replace" was a useful slogan, too, in that it came to have meaning without having any actual or specific meaning."

-Wolff, Michael: Fire and Fury- Inside the Trump White House 

SoupIsGoodFood --- 285 days ago -

How long did the Starr investigation last?

How long did the Inquisition last? 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 285 days ago -

This could be Fifty Shades of Shade... 

Butterbean --- 285 days ago -

This could be Fifty Shades of Shade...

I like the title. 

Butterbean --- 284 days ago -

"After the attorney general's recusal, the president, whose instinctive reaction to every problem was to fire someone, right away, thought he should just get rid of Sessions. At the same time, there was little doubt in his mind about what was happening here. He knew where this Russia stuff was coming from, and if these Obama people thought they were going to get away with it they had another think coming. He would expose them all!"

-Wolff, Michael - Fire and Fury- Inside the Trump White House 

Butterbean --- 284 days ago -

Trump still dismissively called it "the Russian thing - a whole lot of nothing." But on March 20, FBI director James Comey appeared before the House Intelligence Committee and tied the story up in a neat package:

I have been authorized by the Department of Justice to confirm that the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, and that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia's efforts. As with any counter intelligence investigation, this will also include an assessment of whether any crimes were committed. Because it is an open, ongoing investigation and is classified I cannot say more about what we are doing and whose conduct we are examining.

-Wolff, Michael - Fire and Fury - Inside the Trump White House 

OrdinaryGuy --- 284 days ago -

Now that we know that the Mueller investigation was based on a DNC paid for dossier what are you liberals going to do now? 

jackass --- 284 days ago -

Mueller investigation is a republican product....and he?s not going away. Trump is in trouble...no one rational supports what he did. 

Butterbean --- 284 days ago -

Efforts to pooh-pooh the narrative,the fake news label, the president's germaphobe defense against the golden shower accusations, the haughty dismissal of minor associates and hopeless hangers-on, the plaintive, if real, insistence that no crime had even been alleged, and the president's charge that he was the victim of an Obama wiretap,had failed. Comey himself dismissed the wiretap allegation. By the evening of Comey's appearance, it was evident to everyone that the Russia plot line, far from petering out, had a mighty and bloody life to come. 

Butterbean --- 284 days ago -

-Wolff, Michael: Fire and Fury- Inside the Trump White House

Forgot the credit.

Can't wait to see the tax returns. 

Butterbean --- 283 days ago -

Ivanka:

On Friday, February 3, at breakfast at the Four Seasons hotel in Georgetown, an epicenter of the swamp, Ivanka Trump, flustered, came down the stairs and entered the dining room, talking loudly on her cell phone: "Things are so messed up and I don?t know how to fix it. . . ."

-Wolff, Michael: Fire and Fury- Inside the Trump White House 

Butterbean --- 283 days ago -

The Donald:

"The story of Trump was the story of how he tried to make himself a story. He was shameless, campy, and instructive: if you were willing to risk humiliation, the world could be yours. Trump became the objective correlative for the rising appetite for fame and notoriety. Trump came to believe he understood everything about the media,who you need to know, what pretense you need to maintain, what information you could profitably trade, what lies you might tell, what lies the media expected you to tell. And the media came to believe it knew everything about Trump, his vanities, delusions, and lies, and the levels, uncharted, to which he would stoop for ever more media attention."

-Wolff, Michael: Fire and Fury- Inside the Trump White House 

SoupIsGoodFood --- 283 days ago -

Liberal desperation is in overload now.

Russian collusion story is crumbling. 

jackass --- 283 days ago -

Maybe...lol 

OrdinaryGuy --- 282 days ago -

As one Congressman said today...they have been investigating Pres Trump for 15 months and have found NO evidence of collusion.....I guess you liberals need to find something else to hope for. 

jackass --- 282 days ago -

These things don?t just happen overnight. Ken Starr was appointed in 1994, investigated several things and came up with a BJ...and that?s all it took to impeach Clinton in 1998...so I guess I can understand why Trumps supporters want Mueller to just shut up and go away...these investigations evolve and that doesn?t bode well for the Donald...he should be very concerned about who he trusts right now. 

Butterbean --- 282 days ago -

Trump himself you could see as a sort of Delphic oracle, sitting in place and throwing out pronouncements which had to be interpreted. Or as an energetic child, and whomever could placate or distract him became his favorite. Or as the Sun God (which is effectively how he saw himself), the absolute center of attention, dispensing favor and delegating power, which could, at any moment, be withdrawn.

-Wolff, Michael: Fire and Fury- Inside the Trump White House 

Butterbean --- 282 days ago -

Trump comes to the White House:

At the White House, he retreated to his own bedroom,the first time since the Kennedy White House that a presidential couple had maintained separate rooms (although Melania was spending scant time so far in the White House). In the first days he ordered two television screens in addition to the one already there, and a lock on the door, precipitating a brief standoff with the Secret Service, who insisted they have access to the room. He reprimanded the housekeeping staff for picking up his shirt from the floor: "If my shirt is on the floor, it's because I want it on the floor." Then he imposed a set of new rules: nobody touch anything, especially not his toothbrush. (He had a longtime fear of being poisoned, one reason why he liked to eat at McDonald's;nobody knew he was coming and the food was safely premade.) Also, he would let housekeeping know when he wanted his sheets done, and he would strip his own bed.

-Wolff, Michael: Fire and Fury- Inside the Trump White House 

Butterbean --- 281 days ago -

Supreme Court:

Gorsuch's nomination was also a victory for a staff that had seen Trump, with this plum job and rich reward in his hand, waver again and again. Pleased by how the nomination was received, especially by how little fault the media could find with it, Trump would shortly become a Gorsuch fan. But before settling on Gorsuch, he wondered why the job wasn't going to a friend and loyalist. In the Trump view, it was rather a waste to give the job to someone he didn't even know.

-Wolff, Michael: Fire and Fury- Inside the Trump White House 

Butterbean --- 281 days ago -

I spend my own money:

The candidate who billed himself as a billionaire,ten times over,refused even to invest his own money in it. Bannon told Jared Kushner-who, when Bannon signed on to the campaign, had been off with his wife on a holiday in Croatia with Trump enemy David Geffen-that, after the first debate in September, they would need an additional $50 million to cover them until election day.
"No way we'll get fifty million unless we can guarantee him victory," said a clear-eyed Kushner.
"Twenty-five million?" prodded Bannon.
"If we can say victory is more than likely."
In the end, the best Trump would do is loan the campaign $10 million, provided he got it back as soon as they could raise other money. (Steve Mnuchin, then the campaign's finance chairman, came to collect the loan with the wire instructions ready to go, so Trump couldn't conveniently forget to send the money.)

-Wolff, Michael: Fire and Fury- Inside the Trump White House 

Butterbean --- 280 days ago -

The new resident:

On the February 5, the New York Times published an inside-the-White-House story that had the president, two weeks into his term, stalking around in the late hours of the night in his bathrobe, unable to work the light switches. Trump fell apart. It was, the president not incorrectly saw, a way of portraying him as losing it, as Norma Desmond in the movie Sunset Boulevard, a faded or even senile star living in a fantasy world. (This was Bannon's interpretation of the Times's image of Trump, which was quickly adopted by everyone in the White House.) And, of course, once again, it was a media thing - he was being treated in a way that no other president had ever been treated.

-Wolff, Michael: Fire and Fury- Inside the Trump White House 

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