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jacobson --- 6 years ago -

And she always ignores that others talked down to me too.

Yes, she does that to me also. 

Work in Progress --- 6 years ago -

And there is really something to this. Liberals are told lies about what conservatives believe so that they demonize them rather than listen to them. That's why, with absolutely no evidence, they call us bigots, racists, woman haters, environment haters, etc. And they call us wing nuts, kooks, extremists, flat earthers, you name it, to give the impression that we are either stupid or crazy. Then the liberals believe this nonsense and spew it themselves, never realizing what is really at stake.

They have no idea that we are trying to conserve the liberty that the constitution recognizes. We are trying to stop the trend that has been slowly heading towards Europe since. . .well, probably since the New Deal. 

Work in Progress --- 6 years ago -

And TD has called me crazy, too. Mostly because she has bought in to the false narrative that keeps liberals completely ignorant of the issues, but distracts them with non existant wars on women.

Of course, she conveniently forgets that. :) 

Avatar --- 6 years ago -

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AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 6 years ago -

yes, Work, I do hold you to higher standards- as far as my talking down to you, I did that to show you how it feels to be told "I should have learned the in high school"- I'm not a liberal, I'm a moderate- I've never called anyone racist, or any of the other words you mentioned, other than to say you're extremists, which you are- I actually like you most of the time, but not when you pontificate about subjects where you're a zealot- (j, I know you badly want this to be about you, but it isn't-I expect exactly what I get from you, which is nonsense) 

jacobson --- 6 years ago -

I'm not a liberal, I'm a moderate

Not much difference between the two.

but not when you pontificate about subjects where you're a zealot

Nothing wrong with being a zealot when it's being a zealot for the truth. 

Work in Progress --- 6 years ago -

This is what I'm talking about TD. I am, in no way, a zealot. I am for the government as laid out in the Constitution. This does not zealotry make!

And you really have to ask yourself, are you truly a moderate if standing up for the Constitution and limited govt makes one extreme????? 

alldayredux --- 6 years ago -

Not much difference between the two.

I agree.

name 3 true conservatives. 

alldayredux --- 6 years ago -

I am for the government as laid out in the Constitution.

Except for all men are created equal 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 6 years ago -

your idea of limiting government means limit the things you don't like, but keep government control on the things you want- you can't have it both ways- 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 6 years ago -

I have to get off, now- I'll check in later to see the snark you give me- 

alldayredux --- 6 years ago -

are you truly a moderate if standing up for the Constitution and limited govt makes one extreme?????

Any argument that uses the Bible to deny gay marriage rights is invalid because Christianity has nothing to do with the American legal system or the Constitution. 

Work in Progress --- 6 years ago -

That's just nonsense. Marriage has always been available to anyone (over a certain age) who wanted to enter it.

What has happened lately is "fundamentally transform" the definition of marriage to include any long term relationship of consenting adults.

That's not marriage, regardless of what you may call it. And the whole point of the legalization is to sue conservatives who try to exercise their freedom of religion for discrimination.

Overnight practically, half of th US is in danger of litigation for holding to their principles. That's liberalism for you. And why we must stop it.

It was never about "hate," although that is the lie the media tells you. It is about trying to protect people from litigation that is the inevitable result of bad law. 

alldayredux --- 6 years ago -

That's just nonsense. Marriage has always been available to anyone (over a certain age) who wanted to enter it.

What has happened lately is "fundamentally transform" the definition of marriage to include any long term relationship of consenting adults.

That's not marriage, regardless of what you may call it. And the whole point of the legalization is to sue conservatives who try to exercise their freedom of religion for discrimination.

Overnight practically, half of th US is in danger of litigation for holding to their principles. That's liberalism for you. And why we must stop it.

It was never about "hate," although that is the lie the media tells you. It is about trying to protect people from litigation that is the inevitable result of bad law.


You're as deeply brainwashed as anyone I've ever encountered.

No matter your trumped up rationale it's denying constitutional rights 

SoupIsGoodFood --- 6 years ago -

Except for all men are created equal

You guys just keep proving WIP right.

LOL 

alldayredux --- 6 years ago -

You guys just keep proving WIP right.

The next time will be the first time. LOL 

Work in Progress --- 6 years ago -

And it also funny that you think the only objection is biblical. Gay marriage has never been legal until recently. Are you suggesting that we WERE founded on Christian principles?

Also, except for VERY few cases, gay marriage has never been recognized by any society, regardless of whether they had the Bible, because it has always been understood that marriage is the backbone of the of the family unit. 

jacobson --- 6 years ago -

Except for all men are created equal

That means all men are born equal. It doesn't mean that all men achieve their potential. 

Love My Creator --- 6 years ago -

Also, except for VERY few cases, gay marriage has never been recognized by any society, regardless of whether they had the Bible, because it has always been understood that marriage is the backbone of the of the family unit.

Amen to that!! 

Work in Progress --- 6 years ago -

All day, Im not brainwashed. I just think through things.

I'm not smarter, Im certain that IQ wise, you most likely beat me. But I read those who are experts in their fields, and what they have to say about the issues. And I seek out the way things truly are, instead of listening to a media that admits leaning left.

There are a lot of intelligent people out there that explain all of this. My favorite is Thomas Sowell, but there are so many others. 

alldayredux --- 6 years ago -

name 3 true conservatives.

Bueller, Bueller 

Work in Progress --- 6 years ago -

What does "3 true conservatives" have to do with anything? Are you trying to put me in the position of defending someone who did something that wasn't conservative one time? That means nothing. It's not about "my guy", it's about my principles. 

AMDG --- 6 years ago -

On polarization and gridlock I like this guy's ideas. Morris Fiorina. He has a whole bunch of talks on YouTube.

His basic premise is, that the vast majority of people, on most issues, are a combination of pragmatic, apathetic, and pessimistic on any chance of real change. The current polarization of the parties is a manufacture of the parties, with the goal of election, not governance.

Interesting guy if you have the time to listen to some of his thoughts. 

alldayredux --- 6 years ago -

What does "3 true conservatives" have to do with anything?

Thanks. You just proved it's a theocracy you want. I already knew that though. 

Work in Progress --- 6 years ago -

AMDG, I wouldn't disagree with that about the polarization, but I still maintain that as a people, with very few exceptions, we are safest when government does nothing.

I welcome gridlock. It is supposed to weed out the parlor tricks and ridiculousness that passes through. Do you know how many millions of pages of legislature passes through? Most of it is absolutely terrible and non-constitutional. The founding fathers envisioned exactly this, and created a way to block that from oppressing the people. Passing legislation is supposed to be hard. 

Work in Progress --- 6 years ago -

What are you talking about all day? Help me with your thought process that led to that assertion. That makes no sense. 

alldayredux --- 6 years ago -

At the heart of their political agenda is a deep antipathy to the idea of the separation of church and state. An energetic industry of pseudo-historians, legal "scholars" and home schooling educators relentlessly promotes the message that church-state separation is a myth concocted by liberal elites to keep America from realizing its true destiny as a "Godly Kingdom," a pious "shining city upon a hill." For many of our fellow citizens, the establishment (or, as they would say, restoration) of America as a "Christian Nation" is a condition to the second coming of Christ, the most important thing that can ever happen. 

Work in Progress --- 6 years ago -

Ok, I don't know where you are getting that, but it is absolute rubbish. It may be based on a VERY fringe view of a group of idealist who did think that Christianity would lead to a more and more perfect world up to the point of Christ's return. But that was NEVER mainstream, and it completely died out in the 20th century, before I was even born. So whoever wrote that is talking about a fringe group of people who died out over 70 years ago. They need to read more. Once again the left, either purposely or ignorantly, completely misframes the beliefs of conservatives. And you believe it. You need to read some conservatives to see what they actually say, and how much they can back up, their claims. I think you would be very surprised at the result of that exercise.

Are you ignoring that because of gay marriage, the government is punishing people for their religious views? In what possible way is that a separation of church and state? 

alldayredux --- 6 years ago -

the government is punishing people for their religious views?

I hadn't heard you're being forced to marry women. I'm not for that if you consider it punishment. 

Work in Progress --- 6 years ago -

Face palm. I hope you were trying to be funny and that isn't really your understanding. 

jacobson --- 6 years ago -

At the heart of their political agenda is a deep antipathy to the idea of the separation of church and state.

It is rubbish since there is no separation of church and state in the Constitution. 

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