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fuzz81 --- 3 years ago -

So you already pay more for it, and it sucks. Yay low information voters. 

Butterbean --- 3 years ago -

Liberals generally support Obama and toe the party line (No original thought): They are Pro-abortion, anti-First Amendment (I.E., don't like to debate the issues, just call for everyone to fall in line.....as Powers said in her recent book), pass more laws to correct problems instead of enforcement of existing laws (I.E., pass hate crime legislation instead of enforcing current laws...... It's for show). Lately, they have become pro-Muslim and anti-Israel.

Conservatives seem to promote family, religion and morality, and (like their liberal counterparts) sometimes are hypocritical on issues). They point to the economic boom at the end of WWII as a reason for government to stay out of free enterprise. Lately, they have become anti-Muslim and pro-Israel.


That's a whole lot of differing items, Ray. Most, I try to adhere to in my life.

Support of a governmental direction with which I agree is as valid as opposing what I don't agree with. I don't want anyone to fall in line. I want them to obey the law until it's no longer the law. The founding fathers certainly saw it that way. They wrote and passed into law a constitution. It's been up to those of us that followed to try to interpret what the constitution means in a changing country.

Am I a liberal? Am I a conservative?

The gov't was knee deep in the post WW2 economy. Industry was not given free reign. Tax dollars paid for retooling and re-education.

edited to add: The US was a provider of goods and services to a large chunk of the world. The American citizen paid for it through financial instruments. 

jacobson --- 3 years ago -

Hitler said the Jews were a race

LOL, and you believe Hitler? 

RayofHope --- 3 years ago -

and you believe Hitler??

Not necessarily. It's one of those things that people argue over. 

RayofHope --- 3 years ago -

That's a whole lot of differing items, Ray. Most, I try to adhere to in my life.

Good!! You are probably a righteous man/woman, and there is no point in labeling you. 

Behold the pale horse --- 3 years ago -

You already pay for it. The US pays more tax dollars per person than other countries with civilized medicine.

Nothing you posted backs up this claim. 

fuzz81 --- 3 years ago -

No? So Wikipedia has incorrect stats? There's a graph there that shows the US paying more in healthcare per GDP than any other country. 

fuzz81 --- 3 years ago -

http://www.cbpp.org/research/policy-basics-where-do-our-federal-tax-dollars-go

24% or $836 billion dollars in 2014 

fuzz81 --- 3 years ago -

Because of a privatized system, that $836 billion is lining people's pockets instead of providing services to citizens. 

Behold the pale horse --- 3 years ago -

The US pays more tax dollars per person

This was your claim and you failed to substantiate it. 

fuzz81 --- 3 years ago -

Stick to the facts. 24% of your taxes go to healthcare. $836 billion. You do the math and prove me wrong. 

Behold the pale horse --- 3 years ago -

You couldn't substantiate your claim. 

fuzz81 --- 3 years ago -

Neither did you 

Behold the pale horse --- 3 years ago -

I made no claim.

Its ok, we all know. 

fuzz81 --- 3 years ago -

Lol you clearly implied I was wrong, which is your claim. There's no denying $836 billion is a lot of dough. 

jacobson --- 3 years ago -

Because of a privatized system, that $836 billion is lining people's pockets instead of providing services to citizens.

That is absolute nonsense. You didn't dig deep enough. Two-thirds of that money goes to the disabled and to the elderly - people who need help - and that is charity, not socialization. 

Behold the pale horse --- 3 years ago -

Lol you clearly implied I was wrong, which is your claim.


In case your interested, here's the numbers.


In 2010, the year Obamacare passed and was signed into law, the healthcare percentage was 24.10. The following year, 2011, it dropped to 23.7 percent, and in 2012 dropped still further to 22.45 percent. After this, however, the trend sharply reversed. In 2013 the healthcare share jumped to 25.19 percent, and the latest numbers posted this week for 2014 show the highest proportion yet at 27.49 percent, a full 22 percent increase over 2012. This means that for every dollar a taxpayer pays in 2014, an additional nickel is going to pay for healthcare that had been spent elsewhere in 2012. Presently, over 27 cents on every dollar is spent by the federal government on health care, primarily Medicaid and Medicare. 

fuzz81 --- 3 years ago -

Uhh those are percentages of taxes spent on healthcare. You're supporting my point.

Also it's "you're" not your in this case. 

Behold the pale horse --- 3 years ago -

Uhh those are percentages of taxes spent on healthcare. You're supporting my point

Yes, I know. Again, you said, The US pays more tax dollars per person . Nothing either you or
I posted substantiate that claim you made. 

fuzz81 --- 3 years ago -

"The United States currently spends more per person on health care than any other developed country. Health outcomes in the U.S., however, are among the worst."

"Despite weak health spending growth worldwide, a number of countries still had substantial health care budgets as of 2012. Based on data released by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), the U.S. led the developed world in 2012, spending $8,745 per capita on health care. Turkey, by contrast, spent just $984 per capita, the lowest among developed countries. 24/7 Wall St. reviewed the countries spending the most on health care per person in 2012." 

Behold the pale horse --- 3 years ago -

Despite OECD being a shill for socialized medicine, nothing there substantiates your original claim. 

fuzz81 --- 3 years ago -

Ok, so show me some evidence to refute. I provided some sources with the numbers. The math is simple, you pay more taxes per capita than any other nation, with poor outcomes. 

Behold the pale horse --- 3 years ago -

The US pays more tax dollars per person

Again, here is your claim. You cannot or will not substantiate it. You don't substantiate a claim by saying "prove me wrong" 

fuzz81 --- 3 years ago -

Read first paragraph of USA today link. I pasted it above. 

fuzz81 --- 3 years ago -

You are just ignoring anything I provide to substantiate it. So now it's your turn. Show me evidence to refute. 

Behold the pale horse --- 3 years ago -

You are just ignoring anything I provide to substantiate it.

Because you never provided anything to substantiate your original claim. 

fuzz81 --- 3 years ago -

USA today makes the exact same claim

"The United States currently spends more per person on health care than any other developed country. Health outcomes in the U.S., however, are among the worst." 

Behold the pale horse --- 3 years ago -

"The United States currently spends more per person on health care than any other developed country. Health outcomes in the U.S., however, are among the worst."

That wasn't your original claim. 

fuzz81 --- 3 years ago -

Ok pale donkey. Behold your wisdom 

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