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Excellent visual on privilege and advantages

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idontplaynice 1
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Prolix Raconteur --- 10 days ago -

No, what's funny is you turning every single thread, regardless of topic, into an anti Trump, anti republican tirade replete with all kinds of ill informed, propaganda memes from Democrat Underground and the like. 

the Markster --- 10 days ago -

what's funny is you turning every single thread, regardless of topic, into an anti Trump,

Im glad I could make your day. 

idontplaynice --- 9 days ago -

To the original poster:

Nice video, but too simplistic.

I grew up without privilege, meaning child in a single-mother home, no father, and with the fear that I was one step away from the street.

That was a disadvantage but also a great advantage. Since I didn't get much help from a dad and mentors, I took it upon myself to learn whatever I could to get ahead. I learned from an early age that life wasn't going to hand me anything, and that if I wanted something I had to go get it myself. That is a concept lost on a lot of kids today, especially ones who grew up in middle to upper middle class homes. Those kids are too dependent on the parent support system, to the point where sometimes, they never outgrow it. 

Prolix Raconteur --- 9 days ago -

, I took it upon myself to learn whatever I could to get ahead. I learned from an early age that life wasn't going to hand me anything, and that if I wanted something I had to go get it myself.

As it should be. Too many people today wallow in some perceived sense of victimhood and entitlement. They don't/won't put in the personal effort as it's much easier to stick their hand out and blame someone else for their situation. 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 9 days ago -

We are getting weaker as a society. When our parents and grandparents had to work and survive, it was HARDER, and there was nowhere near the gov't aid or help there is now. It was a hard life and we would probably all shudder if we had to live like that. Why? Bc we have a much higher standard of living, even for basics now, and expectations are so much higher. Most people would die thinking they were being tortured if they didn't have a big TV.

I'm all for programs that help people get on their feet and protect children's welfare with my tax dollars. But it needs to be transitional and we need good work program training. The cultural welfare cycle is a horrendous blot on society. The children caught up in that are doomed. No one should think that's an ok way to live. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 9 days ago -

Well said, as always, Prolix- 

the Markster --- 9 days ago -

When our parents and grandparents had to work and survive, it was HARDER,

Was it?
Back in the 40's 50's 60's till the early 70's one did not need a degree or even finish high school to support a large family and take vacations. 

the Markster --- 9 days ago -

Women didnt really come into the workforce until the late 50's. Meaning a single income was plenty 

Prolix Raconteur --- 9 days ago -

My dad emigrated to the US from Europe with $16 in his pocket after WW2. There was no welfare network providing housing, food and cash. You either worked, learned English and assimilated or you perished. His ultimate goal was to become an American citizen and realize the American dream. And he did just that without any help from anybody. He was the proudest most patriotic American I've ever know. He knew what an opportunity he had being here and worked every day to make it reality.

He wouldn't know the definition of "virtue signaling" today, but he'd sure as hell call out BS when he saw it. 

the Markster --- 9 days ago -

My dad emigrated to the US from Europe with $16 in his pocket after WW2.

Thanks for making my point 

the Markster --- 9 days ago -

You know, If we stop locking threads. Thad be great 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 9 days ago -

One dosent NEED one now either. I mean it helps big time if you do, but I don't have one and I don't have corporate job experience either. So I created a business. uneducated, inexperienced middle age woman on my own. No income other than mine. Sometimes you gotta beat the system.

It's true now, 2 incomes seem to be more and more necessary. But here's the issue at heart: do people REALLY live within their means and is two incomes necessary? Bc I know people who had the mom stay home with kids and they survived on one average income. But there weren't any extras or big vacations. It's a sacrifice, you get something by giving up something else. It sucks sometimes.

When we chose to sacrifice, it's not easy street but it can be done. The problem is some people think they should have more than they can truly afford bc others have those things. Some people can't afford a house or a new car or an iphone10. We aren't owed anything by anyone. Living in an apartment is far better than living in debt bc a house costs and maintenance are too much for our budget. There's NOTHING wrong with that. But, somewhere in all this materialism, we think "stuff" equals happiness. We want everyone to be happy. It's a phasad. Happiness is about attitude, not things. And it's especially NOT about things when those things are not affordable for us and result is undue stress and strain from it.

Our society is full of small business owners and entrepreneurs. One of those reasons is simply bc they didn't fit in anywhere else. 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 9 days ago -

What's locked now?? Good grief lol 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 9 days ago -

Women didnt really come into the workforce until the late 50's. Meaning a single income was plenty

Correct. The issue today is living beyond ones means and living on credit. 

the Markster --- 9 days ago -

The issue today is living beyond ones means and living on credit.

No its not. Living wages have been stagnant since the 70's. Wages have declined since 2000. Geez bob. the cost of living (anywhere) and wages. Get real 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 9 days ago -

No its not. Living wages have been stagnant since the 70's. Wages have declined since 2000. Geez bob. the cost of living (anywhere) and wages. Get real

Come on Mark, look at the data on the growth of debt. Plus, you are wrong. wages have not been stagnant since the 70's in industries that have growth over the last 3 decades.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/10/09/for-most-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/ 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 9 days ago -

You're both right IMO. Things are getting more expensive. Wages are stagnant in many areas. Individual debt is OUT OF CONTROL. As it is with our gov't spending.

The problem is what it is. Society is declining here IMO. We had the greatest standard of living and the most opportunity to excel. College costs are not within the reach of middle class people. Healthcare costs an arm and a leg.

IN the end, instead of trying to keep up with the Jones's, and the past, we need to revert to a minimalist mentality. Debt is pure strangulation, stress and strain. If we can't afford 200 channels, get antenna TV. Don't get caught up in a fantasy that someone owes you something, they don't, the govt doesn't. I just think it all sucks but I'm NOT going to get on some insane treadmill of trying to be part of a failure mentality. This great nation is in decline. Adjust! Live in a way where you can be free from the lies of materialism. The 50's lifestyle is dead. Yearly vacations are a luxury now. It's too expensive. It can still be done by scaling down and being creative if you let go of the false idea of what it's suppose to be.

I just heard over 40% of people haven't paid off LAST Christmas card spending. There's zero excuse for that. 

the Markster --- 9 days ago -

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Prolix Raconteur --- 9 days ago -

Oh good god, a mother jones cartoon/meme?!? That's your sourcing? The buzzards really drive home the legitimacy, huh? 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 9 days ago -

One doesn't have to go to college to go to trade school- Plumbers, electricians, even mechanics can make good money! Hair dressers, facialists, manicurists, the same- Minimum wage jobs are starter jobs, not meant to support a family. Even at a burger joint, a punctual and serious employee can become manager at some point- it's not the government's job to take care of people- short term help is one thing- staying on the government teat as an income is ridiculous- 

the Markster --- 9 days ago -

it's not the government's job to take care of people-

Then why is the gov taxing the 75k crowd and giving it to millionaires?

Plumbers, electricians, even mechanics can make good money! Hair dressers, facialists, manicurists,

I'll have what your smoking. Hows the weather in la la la la la land? 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 9 days ago -

Are you saying those people can't make money? Because i supported myself as a facialist, Mark- 

the Markster --- 9 days ago -

Oh good god, a mother jones cartoon/meme?

All out of argument? That's all you got PR?
Fix me a sandwich Im gettin stoned on what Dragon is smoking 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 9 days ago -

I was also single a good part of the time I was raising my daughter and managed to make it without any child support- even when I was married, I worked- I was never a stay at home mom- 

the Markster --- 9 days ago -

Are you saying those people can't make money?

Pay attn:
Wages have declined since 2000
The cost of living has risen. Period. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 9 days ago -

Once again, I'll ask you if you bothered to read my posts, because it's become obvious you didn't- I worked during that period- do you think i was exempt from the cost of living? 

the Markster --- 9 days ago -

I was never a stay at home mom-

Out of necessity? Or did you not want to be with kids? I can relate 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 9 days ago -

No, Mark, I worked because I had to- 

Prolix Raconteur --- 9 days ago -

Wages have declined since 2000
The cost of living has risen. Period.


Come on Tatt, didn't you see the buzzards sitting on that graph from Mother Jones? How can you argue with that? 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 9 days ago -

You're right, Prolix- If Mother Jones and Occupy Democrats say it it has to be true. 

the Markster --- 9 days ago -

see the buzzards

Vultures, not buzzards 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 9 days ago -

lol 

the Markster --- 9 days ago -

No more argument? Just Smart a comments?
Thanks for playing "Make my point" 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 9 days ago -

I have no idea what you just wrote- "make my point?" how did i make your point? Your point was ridiculous! Trade people making money is an untrue statement? You live in your own head, mark- 

Prolix Raconteur --- 9 days ago -

Post a legitimate non-biased, apolitical, vetted source to back your assertions and we can talk. Mother Jones cartoons don't make for a sound foundation in any argument; they only make for a good joke. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 9 days ago -

Ain't gonna happen- 

the Markster --- 9 days ago -

Post a legitimate non-biased,
You have internet access, Post your own 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 9 days ago -

LOL! Prolix,you're on your own, here- talking to Mark is like hitting your head on a wall- 

the Markster --- 9 days ago -

"make my point?" Yeah, You have no argument.

You said
"I was never a stay at home mom-"

I asked
"Out of necessity? Or did you not want to be with kids? I can relate"


No answer, so I suppose you made my point. Would you like to answer? 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 8 days ago -

the Markster --- 18 min ago - quote - hide comments
I was never a stay at home mom-

Out of necessity? Or did you not want to be with kids? I can relate

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 17 min ago - edit - quote - hide comments
No, Mark, I worked because I had to- 

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