Evening, King Salvia's legal counsel here, posting on behalf of Salvia himself. Mods want him to debate without hurting feelings, here we go, let's keep it civil, personal attacks, attacks that generalize the "left" or the "right" are childish and have no place in an adult debate regarding a serious issue. Do not assume Salvia is a bleeding heart liberal or a gun toting conservative because he disagrees with you. Now let's get on to it.
Firstly, Salvia's stance is as follows, Donald Trump should not build a border wall. Thou shall not strawman the great Salvia, respond to his points or defend your own position. With sourced information.
Secondly, Memes, pictures with text that lack source of information will immediately make your point moot. If you do not provide a source, no one has any reason to believe you, except to confirm one's own predisposition.
Now onto Salvia's arguments, he has chosen to keep them brief and will elaborate, probably too much, upon request.
1. Donald Trumps border wall will not stop the (roughly) 40% of immigrants who come by plane and overstay their visas.
2. The wall will have to be built over people's homes, wetlands, grasslands, desert, rivers, mountains, and forests. "All of which could be pitfalls for builders" - Chakraborty of Fox News
3. The wall would cost an astronomical 20-26 billion dollars, this estimate does not include maintenance of the wall.

Here is how Saliva would do it if he were President,
1a. Make current undocumented immigrants living in the United States, unless they are criminals of violent offenses, legal citizens.
2a. Create an easier path to citizenship for migrants.

Sources
1. http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/sep/08/jorge-ramos/ramos-40-undocumented-immigrants-come-air/
2. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/14/trumps-border-wall-could-face-geology-problem.html
3. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-wall-exclusive-idUSKBN15O2ZN 

Creekwood let out late today 

Creekwood let out late today


let's keep it civil, personal attacks, attacks that generalize the "left" or the "right" are childish and have no place in an adult debate
(To be clear for Salvia's fans, No "The Mark" is not Salvia, Salvia's name is Mark, however) 

Good luck getting the trumpflakes to say anything of substance. Quinn will be along any moment with a picture. 

Good luck getting the trumpflakes to say anything of substance. Quinn will be along any moment with a picture.

Do not assume Salvia is a bleeding heart liberal or a gun toting conservative because he disagrees with you. Now let's get on to it.
Firstly, Salvia's stance is as follows, Donald Trump should not build a border wall. Thou shall not strawman the great Salvia, respond to his points or defend your own position. With sourced information.