He is honest and doesn't sugar coat his view 

God, I hope he gets the nomination. 

that's great, but the president of the US needs to keep his opinions separate from the position-he's in a secular job, president over all the citizens-the law is the law-unless the Supreme Court changes it's ruling, he has to respect that-this isn't something I would do myself, but I'm not going to take it upon myself to play God-and I still believe there are instances, such as rape and incest, where a woman has a right to make that choice-also, if her life in in danger, she should have the right to decide who comes first-did you know Barry Goldwater was pro-choice? Not for himself, but because he felt Gov. had no place making these types of decisions-I think he was the last, truly small Gov. Rebublican in politics- 

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LULZ, dog whistle vs horn. 

I saw it when it was on-It was great-Jon Stewart is so funny- I think you missed the irony, though...They really weren't trying to say Santorum should be president-he's very honest, and I respect him for that!!!Just not for President-watch it again- 

God, I hope he gets the nomination.

I usually like valid choices. But... 

the law is the law-unless the Supreme Court changes it's ruling


A Christian is to obey the law unless it violates His law. However, please show me which law allows abortion. The Supreme Court doesn't make laws. Only the Legislative Branch can do that.

The Constitution guarantees the right to "life". It's not hard to see that abortion takes away that guarantee. It's also not hard to see that any Christian would not believe in abortion. No matter what. Any baby, regardless of how it was conceived, is not the property of it's mother. People who advocate abortion are advocating slavery, where the owner could do what he wanted with his slaves. Even kill them. Anyone who does advocate abortion is playing God. 

the law in this country is a woman's right to choose- it was decided in Roe vs Wade about 30 years ago, or more-the Supreme Court has held that up ever since- 

please show me which law allows abortion.

This comment leads me to believe that there may be some confusion on how laws work. The law that makes abortion legal is the same one that makes eating, drinking, and breathing legal. You see, based on the Consititution, the government does not grant people the right to do something. There need not be a law that allows abortion, only the absence of a law that outlaws abortion.

But... to answer your question, here is the law that allows abortion.

"The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." -9th Amendment to the Consititution. 

God, I hope he gets the nomination.



for amusement purposes. 

In Santorum's Defense,

"Rape is the new missionary" - Forrest Griffin 

Forrest said that? Our Forrest from MMA?? 

wow-what brought that up? 

Forrest said that? Our Forrest from MMA?

Yeah, he posted it on Twitter a few months ago. Dana White almost fired him for it, he had to apologize publicly and everything. He was referencing a news story, might have been the Penn state thing. 

I'm REALLY out of the loop-I love MMA, how did I miss that!!?Which reminds me, when are we going to a sports bar to watch a fight?? 

oops-back on subject matter.. 

I think it is terrific you WHITE ladies decided to delete your offspring. Can any of you tell your story? You must be proud of yourself. 

?? What brought that on?? 

how do you even know what color any of us are?? 

Ever since my vasectomy, my body eats my own offspring. Take that Santorum! 

If he thinks this election will be decided on abortion he will get creamed. 

OH, Dr. Aborto-what color are you? 

OH, Dr. Aborto-what color are you? 

 

A little white cream in your black coffee.

Santorum! 

A little white cream in your black coffee.

Santorum! 

I was laughing when John King asked the 4 to describe themselves using one word. I was hoping for Santorum to say "Frothy". 

He is honest and doesn't sugar coat his view

What??

Ron Paul is honest. Ron Paul doesn't sugar coat ANYTHING. He tells the truth no matter how volatile or ugly that truth is. (The same truths that Santorum and Romney hide from)

Santorum said himself he has no plans to take out the Federal Reserve...which means I have no plans of even PRETENDING to give one iota of support towards him.

Not audited...not minimized...ABOLISHED.

If the candidate isn't talking about ENDING WARS and ABOLISHING the Federal Reserve, then he's not talking about anything that makes a real difference to anyone. 

But... to answer your question, here is the law that allows abortion.

the 9th amendment to the consititution isn't a law that allows abortion...a law of our land is to not commit murder...abortion is murder 

my body eats my own offspring. Take that Santorum!

You should be ashamed of yourself, Dr. Aborto. EVERY sperm is sacred.

 

AOC, they don't get that when they make potential personhood sacred, bj's are cannibalism. 

the 9th amendment to the consititution isn't a law that allows abortion...a law of our land is to not commit murder...abortion is murder

Look John. I get that you're trying to be philosophical and deep with this response, but don't do so at the expense of facts. We are talking about the law here. We are not talking about morality. You and I both agree that murder is illegal. Hopefully, you will agree that (regardless of how you feel about it) abortion is legal. Thus, by LEGAL TERMS AT LEAST, abortion is not murder UNDER THE LAW.

Again, this is not to make a judgment on your moral opposition to it. I get that. The simple fact is though, if the law thought it was murder... it would be illegal. 

Thus, by LEGAL TERMS AT LEAST, abortion is not murder UNDER THE LAW.

It is murder under GOD'S LAW....sadly I counsel women who have had abortions often. I have yet to meet one lady who hasn't regretted her decision. That fact alone is enough to make me pro-life though I believe that life begins at conception. JMO..no need to challenge or attack me if you disagree, I won't be changing my mind. 

It is murder under GOD'S LAW

Where in the bible is there mention of a zygote being a person, or anything more than a genetic blueprint? It is a potential person, without a brain. It does not think, feel, or have emotion until maybe the 8th month of gestation. In the early stages it's more like a worm or a fish, which according to same book, man has dominion over. Killing a fish is not murder, and people have a god-given authority to use their judgement over such creatures' fate.

Not trying to change your mind, just wondering about the biblical reference. Anyone but JL, I am interested in your response. ty 

Where in the bible is there mention of a zygote being a person,

Jeremiah 1: 5, "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart;" 

Not trying to change your mind, just wondering about the biblical reference. Anyone but JL, I am interested in your response. ty


See post above.. 

Listen to me, O house of Jacob, all you who remain of the house of Israel, you whom I have upheld since you were conceived, and have carried since your birth. Even to your old age and gray hairs I am he, I am he who will sustain you. I have made you and I will carry you; I will sustain you and I will rescue you (Isaiah 46:3-4). 

LiveFree, ty for trying, but these verses really don't address the idea of the person-hood of a zygote. Actually, the first one reinforces the idea of potential personhood, since it mentions being formed (a process which takes place over time). The second seems like it is God talking to adults...there's no mention of the fetuses that weren't carried full term, due to abortion, miscarriage, death of the mother, etc., or even of children who died in their first year of life. He (the speaker) didn't "sustain" or "rescue" them, so I don't see how that verse proves person-hood of life from conception. 

Jeremiah 1:5 the other poetic part that you've left off I appointed you as a prophet to the nations. As if to say, I knew "I've put you on the Earth to use you as a messenger, Jeremiah."

Quote:

Listen to me, O house of Jacob, all you who remain of the house of Israel, you whom I have upheld since you were conceived, and have carried since your birth. Even to your old age and gray hairs I am he, I am he who will sustain you. I have made you and I will carry you; I will sustain you and I will rescue you (Isaiah 46:3-4).

The Isiah passage is interesting, check out the more modern NIV interpretation

Quote:

“Listen to me, you descendants of Jacob, all the remnant of the people of Israel, you whom I have upheld since your birth, and have carried since you were born.

This is often brought up, normally the anti-choice advocates lose it.

It seems to be like the point that we grant personhood is highly subjective, though science can do a lot to advise us -- it's unfortunate that the religious leave it out. 

Ok, I didn't read every response, but personally this issue is conflicting. I'm pretty sure this is a rather rare occurrance, Thank God. If a woman gets preganant after a rape, as horrible as that is, the child is STILL the innocent victim, along with the mother. I get why the mother would not want to raise the child. But there are zillions of people wanting and waiting years to adopt a child...that seems like the perfect solution. It does put a burden on the mother to carry the pregnancy to term...but again, someone wanting to adopt would foot the bill.

Abortion is legal so women have that option. I still have issues with disposing of an innocent life.