This may have been brought up before here. Someone told me the other day that the ammo manufacturers are not having a hard time filling orders but that the orders are being bought up immediately when shipped. This goes for ONLINE ordering also. There is virtually nowhere online you can get ammo for various calibers....9mm, 380, 22's etc. I just wonder if the gov't doesn't have someone that is staying on top of 'every' website that sells ammo and ordering all of their inventory the second it's available to keep supplies low for consumers to sort of ween into the era of taking ammo from us? I am sure others have thought of this but it just occurred to me. If a retail brick and mortar store order, get them in, then of course 99% of the buyers are consumers like you and me and it goes fast due to the lack of availability of it right now, but online...you have no clue who gets it...just a thought, but a LOT of ammo sales are online. 

Here is a link and they have ammo.

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I just wonder if the gov't doesn't have someone that is staying on top of 'every' website that sells ammo and ordering all of their inventory the second it's available to keep supplies low for consumers to sort of ween into the era of taking ammo from us?

I can't imagine they are that dumb. If you break it all down, that's one heck of an effort to keep ammo from people...especially since the criminal element will find a way to get it no matter what.

If they actually DID do that, I'm thinking a black market would develop, and then, just what has been accomplished? 

Is the U.S. government getting ready for a war we don’t know about?

And, if that’s why Washington is stockpiling massive amounts of ammunition (hollow points, by the way), why is Homeland Security doing the buying instead of the Defense Department?

I have some theories.

Many of you will remember a story I broke a long time ago – about presidential candidate Barack Obama’s little-noticed announcement that, if elected in 2008, he wanted to create a “civilian national security force” as big, as strong and as well-funded as the Defense Department.

Here’s what he actually said at a campaign stop in Colorado July 2, 2008: “We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”



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Could what we see happening now in the Department of Homeland Security be the beginning of Obama’s dream and our constitutional nightmare?

We’ve learned more about Obama’s vision since then. Maybe it’s time for a review:
•He made the campaign promise to build this $439 billion domestic army, but all references to the initiative were inexplicably deleted from the copy of his speech posted on his website while others mysteriously disappeared from transcripts of the speech distributed by the campaign. That was strange – and ominous.
•At the time, I had never heard anyone use the phrase “civilian national security force” before. But I did a little homework and found out where it originated. It was first proposed by then Bush administration Defense Secretary Robert Gates. On that basis alone, I accurately predicted that, if elected, Obama would name Gates as his own defense secretary. Needless to say, when that appointment came to pass, no media outlet bothered to interview me about my foresight.
•Still during the campaign of 2008, I suggested that what Obama had in mind might be something very sinister indeed – perhaps “some kind of domestic Big Brother program.”

We never heard another mention of Obama’s “civilian national security force” again. Not in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 or 2012.

But that brings us up to 2013 and the highly unusual stockpiling of firearms and ammo by Homeland Security – firearms and ammo that Obama would like to deny to ordinary citizens who are not members of his domestic army.

Well, I hate to say it, but I may have predicted this, too.

In a Halloween column last fall, I stated that, if re-elected, Obama would “declare a full-scale war on his domestic opposition.”

I wasn’t joking. I was deadly serious – so serious, in fact, that I did something I pledged I would never do: Vote for Mitt Romney. It was a matter of self-defense and self-preservation. I said then that a second term of Obama might mean we would never see another free and fair election in America. (I’m not even sure we saw one in 2012.) I suggested due process would go the way of the horse and buggy. I said I expected Obama would move to shut down or destroy all independent media. I even speculated that his biggest critics would eventually be rounded up in the name of national security.

Think about it.

Why does the civilian Department of Homeland Security need billions of rounds of ammunition?

This is the agency that is responsible for policing the border. But it doesn’t.

This is the agency that is responsible for catching terrorists. But it doesn’t.

So why does Homeland Security need so many weapons and enough hollow-point rounds to plug every American six times?

Maybe this is the “civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the Defense Department.

These words – “civilian national security force” – have haunted me ever since I first read them.

Obama has never explained what he meant.

He’s never been called to account for that remark.

Doesn’t this sound like police-state talk to you?

The U.S. Army alone has nearly 500,000 troops. That doesn’t count reserves or National Guard. In 2007, the U.S. defense budget was $439 billion. No one knows what the budget is today because Congress stopped passing budgets when Obama took office.

Is Obama serious about creating some kind of domestic security force bigger and more expensive than that? Is this part of his second-term agenda?

He has also set up, as I have reported, a new homeland security bureaucracy to operate under his own direction.

I think it’s worth recalling here that just over a year ago both houses of Congress unwisely passed the defense reauthorization bill that killed the concept of habeas corpus – legislation that authorized the president to use the U.S. military to arrest and indefinitely detain American citizens without charge or trial.

That legislation would empower a lame-duck Obama to use all of the power of the federal government – constitutional and unconstitutional – to target his political enemies.

If any Republican, conservative, independent journalist, pro-life activist, returning veteran, gun-rights activist, constitutionalist, Bible believer or critic of Obama thinks they will be safe in a second term under this would-be despot, they had better think again – real fast.

The “civilian national security force” is not here to protect any of them. It’s here to destroy the opposition. It’s here to destroy liberty. It’s here to destroy the Constitution.







Why is Homeland Security stockpiling big supplies of guns and ammo?

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/why-is-government-stockpiling-guns-ammo/#K3MriYlel5lqe0VE.99 

Humble Academy has ZERO pistol rounds..... 

All this gun talk from you, I hope this isn't leading to you thinking about putting a bullet in LUCKY's head as a cheap solution so you don't have to deal with him? Which county road should we be looking for him on if you decide to terminate him?

Or, are you as usual just looking for more attention with this thread? 

Or, are you as usual just looking for more attention with this thread? 



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one shot one kill. Doesn't matter how many. What matters is how good you are. I guess the liberals are just bad shots. 

one shot one kill. Doesn't matter how many. What matters is how good you are. I guess the liberals are just bad shots.

She just got a gun. Give her more time. Maybe she might be able to hit a LUCKY dog at ten feet with practice. 

Some friends and I went in for 1000 rounds of hollow points from www.bulkammo.com It was here in less than a week. Reasonable price too. 

Some friends and I went in for 1000 rounds of hollow points from www.bulkammo.com It was here in less than a week. Reasonable price too.


I'll have to remember that. Thanks 

I think it's time to SERIOUSLY look at cost of reloading equipment.

I think I could recover the initial investment in a couple of months AND guarantee I have rounds after the government prohibits the sale of bulk ammo. 

I have a place to get ammo and we've had no problem getting 9's, 380's or 22's in the last couple of months, but now they actually have a waiting list...it's getting that slim. I am on the waiting list for 9's now for a doc friend of mine...we actually have enough for now, but will want to restock before too long. Hopefully they will have it more plentiful in a few weeks, but that's a big HOPEFUL...lol. Thanks justforfun1, I will check out that link =) 

Went to wal-mart today. Several people were standing next to an empty glass case that use to contain ammo. I just kept moving. Ive been buying ammo every week or so for the last year so i'm stocked up. I guess I'm going to wait out this craziness. 

I was at Cabellas today and they were all but wiped out, no 22LR. Plenty of various other riffle and shotgun ammo. I got some 45 the other day took 3 weeks to process the order. 

I was at Cabellas today and they were all but wiped out, no 22LR. Plenty of various other riffle and shotgun ammo. I got some 45 the other day took 3 weeks to process the order. 

Yeah and most of these local places ration their sales of it.....so it's almost impossible to stock up when it does become available. =/. I can get a case at a time which is 20 boxes of 50rds, but now am having to wait on backorder for it...it's almost like a rare gold these days. I am grateful that we have what we do already, but thing is that we don't really want to go 'shoot' it all up at the range if we can't replace it easily. 

but thing is that we don't really want to go 'shoot' it all up at the range if we can't replace it easily.

Exactly my thoughts, actaually have a good bit of 22LR on hand but don't really want to go "plinkin" if I cant replace it. On another note I baught DD her first rifle today, a Criket 22, she thrilled and gotta admit I am too, it's pink. 

Went to walmart today and they had no handgun ammo except ONE box of .45 rounds. :/

Idk if its necessarily the government buying it - maybe everyone is stocking up. Obama is the salesperson of the year for firearms ;) 

Idk if its necessarily the government buying it - maybe everyone is stocking up.

I think you're right. The people who complain about not being able to find ammo are the same ones who wipe out stores of all their boxes when they get a chance.
If everyone stopped trying to buy all they can, supply and demand might get back to normal. 

I think it's time to SERIOUSLY look at cost of reloading equipment.


We do that! :) 

If everyone stopped trying to buy all they can, supply and demand might get back to normal. 

People will stop buying 'all they can' when the stores start stocking 'enough' for everyone to buy enough for their needs. I was just at my connections place where we get our ammo and he has me two cases of 9mm (1000 rds each) coming in for Friday. He takes names of those waiting on it and when it comes in he calls us. DH just bought a Marlin 22 rifle from him about 20 minutes ago...finally. He also has ruger 10/22 semi autos with the handgun style look to them and the 10 rd mags...for 379.99. I was able to get about 10 boxes of 380's if I'd wanted them but only got two...they are 27.99 per box of 50 now...prices are really going up and won't get any better either =/.