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Gary Johnson - Anyone interested ???

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The Awe Inspiring JoelleDrees 1
RiteWingKing 1
FANCY PANTS 1
SueRDH 1
AwesomeTattooedDragon 3
steinhoister2016 1
Not KU 1
mutton 6
AMDG 12
aragon 5
Karras 3
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AMDG --- 6 years ago -

So is anyone looking into Gary Johnson seriously ?? Any chance they allow him to join the debates??

I am hoping he becomes more relevant. Not even sure which side he would pull more from. But with the options on the table so far, the best I can hope for is a 3rd candidate that gets enough support so neither HRC or Trump has a plurality. A weak white house, and a power shift to the hill is as good as I can see the next 4 years getting. 

steinhoister2016 --- 6 years ago -

He's the 'none of the above' candidate...I think he'll draw more from the conservatives pool. 

FANCY PANTS --- 6 years ago -

So is anyone looking into Gary Johnson seriously ??

No! 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 6 years ago -

I wish I could be- he's a lot more attractive to me than the other two- 

AMDG --- 6 years ago -

I wish I could be- he's a lot more attractive to me than the other two-

As above I don't think it is a wasted vote if he takes 15% of the vote - it lessens the mandate of whoever gets elected - and shifts power to the house.

If you really don't like the idea of either trump or hrc in the white house, maybe the best we can hope for is a weaker hrd or trump 

Karras --- 6 years ago -

What about the Green Candidate? Jill Stein?

The only way he is allowed to join the debates is if the news media is trying to ruin Trump's chances. 

AMDG --- 6 years ago -

The only way he is allowed to join the debates is if the news media is trying to ruin Trump's chances.

Read this am Mr. Johnson to pull 15% in the polls, to get on the stage - he is at 13% now with a few weeks to go 

Karras --- 6 years ago -

Have you read the Libertarian Platform? Very counter to your Christian beliefs. 

AMDG --- 6 years ago -

Yes Karras - other than abortion, I don't have any serious issues with the rest of the platform.

Every choice for me is a compromise of my Catholic views and the candidates available. I have never been a 1 issue voter, especially on abortion. As passionately pro-life as I am, I am also a pragmatist - Roe v Wade will not be overturned in the next 4 years no matter who is elected.

I differ some from the overt position of my Church on same sex marriage. To me it is not a marriage at all unless blessed by God. So you can call it what you like - but these are civil unions. And I have no issue with civic unions that provide equal civil rights.

My bigger issue is for the government to not infringe on my and my Church's ability to practice our religion. And as a Catholic who grew up in the deep south in the 50's and 60's I am as afraid of evangelical Christians as I am afraid of LBGT, Agnostic/Atheist as a challenge to that. 

AMDG --- 6 years ago -

After looking through today's post briefly, I think it is time to bump this thread.

Vote for Gary, so at least for the next 4 years you say with a clear conscience I did what I could to keep trump and Hillary out of the White House. 

Jeff11233 --- 6 years ago -

So is anyone looking into Gary Johnson seriously ?? Any chance they allow him to join the debates??

If he would have 15% of the vote during the primaries...I think. But probably not now. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 6 years ago -

AMDG, I believe your post is very well thought out, and makes a lot of sense. I'll either vote for him, or no one. 

AMDG --- 6 years ago -

Thanks ATD - last I saw he was at 12% in the polls, at 15% he gets on the debate stage.

Hoping he can pull 15-20% of the popular vote - leaving the winner at best 40-45% of the popular vote. This will shift more power to congress, and mitigate eithers efforts to push through their agenda.

Think that is the best we can hope for - 4 years of either Trump or Hillary - with limited power and hope for the better in 2020 

aragon --- 6 years ago -

I'm voting for him most likely.

I refuse to play "lesser of two evils." 

AMDG --- 6 years ago -

Agree argon. 

mutton --- 6 years ago -

So how does this split vote help with the actual election? Who does it weaken? Not sure it stifles the agenda for either one... 

mutton --- 6 years ago -

We have survived many a democrat and republican presidency. But Trump, to me, is neither. Can we survive him? 

AMDG --- 6 years ago -

Mutton - it is very different if a president is elected with a mandate, It gives him or her increased leverage when dealing with the house to press his or her agenda. If he or she is elected without a plurality, he or she is in a weaker position in dealing with the house. It would moderate their positions, drive them more to he center. 

mutton --- 6 years ago -

But does who is in the house not make the difference? 

RiteWingKing --- 6 years ago -

AMDG, I believe your post is very well thought out, and makes a lot of sense. I'll either vote for him, or no one.

Then vote for him. Encourage third party candidates. If Hillary has it wrapped up because, I am never Trump, I will vote for him. Trump can never walk into that oval office as President. He would do great harm to America. 

AMDG --- 6 years ago -

Every president needs the house to move their agenda forward.

Let's say trump want to build a wall. A president can't order that. That needs to pass in the house. If trump is elected with 55% of the popular vote, members in the house, especially republican members would have difficulty opposing this. They would fear the folks at home want this, and are risking reelection. If however trump is elected with 43% of the vote, it would be much easier for those republicans if they wanted to, to oppose the wall. 

mutton --- 6 years ago -

Thanks AMDG... 

aragon --- 6 years ago -

I'm sure this has been discussed over and over again, but on the wall...

The numbers that have come in illegally is ridiculous, so much so that assimilation is more difficult. Without assimilation, comes a divided nation.

Language is key to assimilation. New immigrants (illegal or otherwise) MUST be taught English.

The wall itself is impractical from a pragmatic standpoint. The border is just too long. If we need to slow illegal immigration in order facilitate assimilation, it's very easy to do so without a wall. 

mutton --- 6 years ago -

How many past amnesties have we had? I am thinking atleast two, no? 

aragon --- 6 years ago -

How many past amnesties have we had? I am thinking atleast two, no??

Several, even Reagan did one.

Perhaps we should just end the pretense that Mexico is separate from the USA and open the borders completly.

Granted that would take some intervention on our part to clean up the mess in Mexico. But that would be a heck of a lot cheaper than Iraq was and would actually benefit us directly (and Mexico's average person)

and we do need to make it happen, because WE are the relief valve for the corrupt Mexican government.

When people there get fed up, they come here. If we were not so easily accessible perhaps the people there would act to clean up the failed Mexican state. They really need a revolution. 

Jeff11233 --- 6 years ago -

Then vote for him. Encourage third party candidates. If Hillary has it wrapped up because, I am never Trump, I will vote for him. Trump can never walk into that oval office as President. He would do great harm to America.?

I don't agree. He will shake up gov't and cut it's size. All big gov't can do right is get bigger. 

Jeff11233 --- 6 years ago -

Let's say trump want to build a wall. A president can't order that. That needs to pass in the house. If trump is elected with 55% of the popular vote, members in the house, especially republican members would have difficulty opposing this. They would fear the folks at home want this, and are risking reelection. If however trump is elected with 43% of the vote, it would be much easier for those republicans if they wanted to, to oppose the wall.?

If he wins the election with a big margin that's a mandate to build the wall. Look what open borders has done to France and Germany. That's one of the reasons why England voted to leave. 

AMDG --- 6 years ago -

If he wins the election with a big margin that's a mandate to build the wall.

pretty much what I said above. So of course I agree with that. My point is every vote for Johnson is a vote to weaken whoever wins the election. Which I think is a very good thing. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 6 years ago -

I have to wonder if Trump supporters realize how long that wall would have to be. SMH. Oh, I forgot. Mexico is going to pay for it. 

Karras --- 6 years ago -

I wonder if liberal realize what a drain illegals are on our society.

Oh right, they are just doing the jobs Americans won't do. 

aragon --- 6 years ago -

The wall isn't practical. But slapping felony charges on employers who hire them is... as well as ending all social welfare programs.

The wall isn't necessary. Many would self deport. 

mutton --- 6 years ago -

Karras, many of them are doing the jobs some won't. Some aren't...has been that way for years.

AMDG, how does weakening a winner in the election do any favors for either side? Does it not just create a bigger divide? Our Country seems to have a big enough one as it is? 

Jeff11233 --- 6 years ago -

The wall isn't practical. But slapping felony charges on employers who hire them is... as well as ending all social welfare programs.

The wall isn't necessary. Many would self deport.?


I agree. 

SueRDH --- 6 years ago -

I'm voting for Gary, and I have both conservative and democrat friends who are also voting for him. 

Not KU --- 6 years ago -

I am hoping he becomes more relevant.
I am hoping more than two parties becomes more relevant.

Gary on Mari:

Libertarian presidential nominee Gary Johnson claimed that ?no politicians outside of Bernie Sanders and myself support legalizing marijuana? at the ?congressional, gubernatorial, senatorial level.? He?s wrong.

That's a freedom "We the People" do not yet have.

As Crazy as Trump is. Im sure even he wants to keep the country safe, as would any presidential candidate. So with that out of the way. Why Gary?
Why not? 

AMDG --- 6 years ago -

AMDG, how does weakening a winner in the election do any favors for either side? Does it not just create a bigger divide? Our Country seems to have a big enough one as it is?

It doesn't help either HRC or Trump, whichever one wins, if either wins without a plurality they will be less effective in getting what they want done.

The sad state of this election is the winner will be either trump or Clinton. The best we can hope for is they are politically weakened to the point where they can't mess too much up in years. I would prefer to have the power base move to capital hill and take my chances there .

I think mark has the Johnson campaign slogan -

Why not Gary, Or may be What the heck, Gary. 

The Awe Inspiring JoelleDrees (Mod) --- 6 years ago -

I'm voting Gary. 

AMDG --- 6 years ago -

With all respect to Arlo Guthrie -

Log onto a chat page wherever you are, just log on and type , Gary Johnson - why the heck not and log off.

You know, if one person, just one person, does it, they may think he's
Really sick, and others will stay with Clinton/Trump.

And if two people do it, in harmony, they may think they're both stupid and
others will still stick with Clinton/Trump.

And if three people do it! Can you imagine three people logging on and saying " Gary Johnson - why the heck not" and signing out others may think it's an Organization!

And can you imagine fifty people a day? I said FIFTY people a day . . .
logging on and putting in all caps GARY JOHNSON WHY THE HECK NOT
They may think it's a MOVEMENT, and that's what it is: THE GARY JOHNSON WHY THE HECK NOT MOVEMENT! . . . and all you gotta do to join is to log on type away. 

aragon --- 6 years ago -

GARY JOHNSON WHY THE HECK NOT

I prefer this motto:

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