Here is a Netflix series that has reached to the core of me. You know how some movies just stay with you in your head? This series is like that.

It's real, raw, "the way it is" with no hold barred. It's not based on truth, it *IS* the truth. So reality based it hurts to watch some parts of it. I don't see the Watchers as cult-ish as so many are. This is a MUST see if you have teens in your life. This is a MUST see if you are a parent. This is a MUST see if you frequent forums such as this. This is a MUST see if you have ever been stalked. This is a MUST see. Don't prepared to be entertained though. This is thought provoking. 

This series does not depict reality. School counselors are not that pathetic and it should not be portrayed to the young public that school counselors are as such.

And no... a nice boy won't seek justice for you if you kill yourself. You kill yourself, you die, you rot, your classmates grow up and barely remember your face...trust me been there....twice!

Don't do it; you won't end up orchestrating the "after" part because duh....you simply won't be there.

Stupid, dangerous series from people trying to make a buck.

Okay, that's my opinion....I rarely, rarely catch anything but the news but having been close to two that killed themselves I wondered how they could do this right....they didn't.

Parents can watch it and worry but teens with their peer pressure, self-imposed drama, peer-imposed drama and mental issues due to hormonal fluctuations should NOT. 

Honestly, I don't know much about the series (or the book) save for a few bits and pieces I've picked up through the news, etc.

Even so, I used to work at a bookstore, and I admit I'm forming what are perhaps rather critical opinions about the series based on that particular bit of my work history.

As with many things, young adult fiction has its trends, whether it's LGBT, weight issues, vampires, or -- in this case -- suicide. If there's one thing that seems nearly universal, it's the "glorification" of these topics. Honestly, I see nothing to glorify, especially suicide. It's messy and painful for everyone, whatever the motivation behind it. I don't think it's helping our young people to tell them that they will become a legacy, so to speak, after death.

No one wants to be forgotten, but unless you're famous (and sometimes even if you are), it's inevitable.

Imo, books and series like 13 Reasons Why are just the newest forms of many years' attempts to be "real" and -- as critics often like to use -- "unforgiving" in their messages. Even the more honest portrayals of real life are dramatized to a degree, and obviously some more than others.

It's great publicity -- attacking the "real and painful" subjects, the "taboo" even. It excites the literary world and gives audiences a break from their otherworldly fantasies until the next greatest thing comes around. But that doesn't mean it's any better.

13 Reasons Why was published in 2007, and a quick Google search will show there are already many, popular teen books about suicide. The Hunger Games was published in 2008, and we all know dystopias of both utopic and dytopic appearances have been with us since at least the late 19th century. Suicide accounts, for that matter, are at least as old as Sophocles.

I believe that people should be more aware of suicide so that they can help those in need, but spreading fiction about how someone will be remembered doesn't do anybody any good. 

Daaaang!!! Puts my simplistic, rough opinion to shame. 

Daaaang!!! Puts my simplistic, rough opinion to shame.
Nothin' wrong with simple. :) 

I didnt read the book. The series main topic was suicide. But in searching for the Why's, it also addressrs, rape, sexual assault, drug abuse, peer pressure, guns,and touched on LGBT and other issues.Through all this they also show different styles of parenting and home situations both good and bad. 

"I believe that people should be more aware of suicide so that they can help those in need, but spreading fiction about how someone will be remembered doesn't do anybody any good. "


So you don't think a movie about a real issue, even if that particular story is fiction, that opens up the dialogue, and encourages understanding about said topic and other important issues such as parental involvement and understanding isn't worthwhile?

The movie is not just about how someone will be remembered. It about why they did what they did. It touches on some real issues that we face today. It opens up the communication that maybe wouldn't have been been opened. I'm pretty sure many families discussed this after viewing it. In the end, everything comes back to that. Isn't that what we need?

And We're here talking about it. 

I can't answer for Randomposter but us here talking about it is worthless to teens. If kids' parents needed this series to prompt them to discuss teen suicide they have been asleep for 20 years. 

I think RandomPoster said he did not watch the series.

I haven't followed the hype from this show, the actors or other. I simply blindly chose a show to watch.

Some types of parenting "skills" portrayed in the series showed that some parents ARE not aware nor they seem not to care about what teens have to deal with let alone suicide symptoms. They also talk about and show how easy it is for teens to hide things from their parents whether is be to protect them or simply being non=communicative as teens cam sometimes be. They also show how teens lie, tell adults what they want to hear to keep things copacetic. It's an age old communication issue teens vs parenting. Nothing new. If one parent reading this is asleep and not aware of their teen's issues or chooses to ignore it whether it be suicide, drugs or other, and starts to question their teen, then a discussion forum can help there. Besides. Of all topics to censor on here or any other forum, why stop addressing and stop talking aloud about teen issues and parenting? The point of the show was that keeping silent, not talking about these things can lead to among other issues, suicide. (I have two very close friends who loss their teen to drugs and suicide)

As far as HS counselors, they have such a large student body work load it is nearly impossible to meet with students once a week like the on portrayed in the show. So yes, counselors can be pathetic or rather have a heavy work load in that vane. My HS DD was called in to see her counselor ONCE in 4 years at KHS. We were lucky to have healthy children with not ill issues. They were not trouble makers but that doesn't mean they didn't have their typical issues. But I honestly don't really know if they would have sought out a school counselor's help. 

So you don't think a movie about a real issue, even if that particular story is fiction, that opens up the dialogue, and encourages understanding about said topic and other important issues such as parental involvement and understanding isn't worthwhile?

The movie is not just about how someone will be remembered. It about why they did what they did. It touches on some real issues that we face today. It opens up the communication that maybe wouldn't have been been opened. I'm pretty sure many families discussed this after viewing it. In the end, everything comes back to that. Isn't that what we need?

And We're here talking about it.?

I didn't say that.

I think a movie about this topic would be great.

But not this series.

I agree that a movie/book can open up dialogue and this is a good thing, but there are themes in this series (glorification, being remembered, etc) that are also being portrayed, and this is where it goes wrong.

Fiction is dramatization or it'd becomes a documentary. It's the drama that detracts from the benefits because it portrays other things.

And, I have to agree with Myra...parents should already know to do this. Suicide in teens -- in anyone, for that matter -- has been going on for years. Communication should have already been established. 

Communication should have already been established.


In a perfect world..... 

"In a perfect world"


Right. Here we have this obvious rise in teen suicide. Parents often do not know what the child is hiding..they are ALL about their peer groups in their teens. You can be an involved and present force in their lives but if they don't want to tell you certain things, they won't. You can be kept in the dark, easily.

So saying they should have already established communication is a truth that can only be applied when they chose it. When they don't, they don't. It's not the parents fault if they chose not to. Parents aren't Mystics. These are troubled minds who are probably struggling with various issues and lack coping skills.

The series has called attention to a real issue and made people discuss it. There's value in that 

u know wat stuck in my head? this song...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AMszn7dll0

listen to it and remember that I am a rapper to and pretty much everything on how I am as a person. so listen to it. :) 

Sounds like an ode to hedonism or heathenism. Lol