It seems like some thing people would be up in arms about, considering the amount of talk about fraudulent voting here.



In Florida, G.O.P. Says Voter Forms Are Suspect
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: September 28, 2012
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TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — What first appeared to be an isolated problem in one Florida county has spread statewide, with election officials in at least seven counties telling prosecutors or state election officials about questionable voter registration forms filled out on behalf of the Florida Republican Party.

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State Republican officials fired Strategic Allied Consulting, the company they had hired to register voters, and on Thursday filed an election fraud complaint against it with state officials.

“We are doing what we can to find out how broad the scope is,” said Brian Burgess, a spokesman for the state party.

The company said that it was cooperating with elections officials and that the suspect forms had been turned in by one person, who was fired. “Strategic has a zero-tolerance policy for breaking the law,” Fred Petti, a company lawyer, said Thursday.

Questionable forms have shown up in South Florida, including Miami-Dade County, as well as in northeast Florida and the Florida Panhandle.

Election officials in Escambia and Santa Rosa Counties on Thursday handed over more than 100 forms to local prosecutors. Officials in Palm Beach County alerted prosecutors days earlier.

Ann W. Bodenstein, the elections supervisor for Santa Rosa County, said her staff started raising questions after an employee saw a form that changed the home address of a neighbor.

Paul Lux, Okaloosa County’s election supervisor, said all of the questionable forms in the Florida Panhandle appeared to have come from Strategic’s base at the local Republican Party headquarters. He said his office had turned up dozens of them.

Mr. Lux said some forms listed dead people and some were incomplete or illegible. He met with prosecutors on Friday, he said, but added that his staff was still going through hundreds of forms.

Mr. Lux, a Republican, said he warned party officials this month when he first learned that the company was paying people to register voters. “I told them ‘This is not going to end well,’ ” he said.

Mr. Lux also heard a complaint from Mary Blackwell, the head of the local chapter of the League of Women Voters, who raised questions about Strategic employees.

Ms. Blackwell said that the league’s Okaloosa chapter had conducted a registration drive at a college in Niceville and that a person who was registering voters told her he was “lucky” he had applications only from Republicans or independents.

The state party paid Strategic more than $1.3 million.





Strategic operating consultants are also working with the pubs in North Carolina,Colorado, Nevada and Virginia. 

Oh; I see. You only care about voter fraud if it's helping Republicans.

All voter fraud is disgusting.

That's why many people have been advocating for an additional way to verify identity upon voting, but most Democrats have turned that down as voter suppression. 

so an employee did something wrong, they found out, reported it and fired the employee and are still working on determining how much wrong was done?

is that it in a nutshell? 

LOL 

so an employee did something wrong, they found out, reported it and fired the employee and are still working on determining how much wrong was done?

is that it in a nutshell? 


In 11 counties in Florida and counting. With a company that already has a horrible reputation for voter tampering. They are also working with the GOP in additional states.

Shouldn't all the VERY concerned pubs be horrified at the potential fraud being perpetrated by hirelings of their party?
I just figured it must be very distressing when the party is putting all this effort(supposedly) to insure fair elections, and then you find shenanigans like this. 

Shouldn't all the VERY concerned pubs be horrified at the potential fraud being perpetrated by hirelings of their party?

interesting.

so you think because this company was hired by the republican party, that all republicans agreed to it? well, to be honest, i am not concerned at all. looks like that found out, and did what they were suppoed to do. if this former employee was the culprit, why be concerned with other locations? or are you quoting the story without really thinking it was this one employee? 

if this former employee


Where are you getting this "one employee" crap? It says nothing about "one employee." They fired the company in Florida, and the company has had serious questions raised about it in the past. Essentially they are Acorn on the other side of the aisle. 

Where are you getting this "one employee" crap?

did i misunderstand?

The company said that it was cooperating with elections officials and that the suspect forms had been turned in by one person, who was fired. 

The company said that it was cooperating with elections officials and that the suspect forms had been turned in by one person, who was fired. 


That is the companies statement, the GOP party in Florida fired the company. 

That is the companies statement, the GOP party in Florida fired the company.

the company also fired the employee they deemed responsible...correct?

forgive me, i am just trying to answer where i got the one employee "crap" from. 

From the Miami Herald:

After the story broke last week, roiling through the newspapers, political blogs and cable television, the Florida Republican Party fired the outfit. So did the state Republican Party organizations in North Carolina, Colorado and Virginia. And finally the Republican National Committee, which had paid the firm $2.9 million to work its magic in swing states, announced that it was severing its relationship with Strategic Allied Consulting. The Florida party bosses also filed a formal election fraud complaint against its own vendor. 

the company also fired the employee they deemed responsible...correct? 


Yes, so? Acorn fired the employees caught on video as well. It didn't assuage any of the doubt. 

Yes, so? Acorn fired the employees caught on video as well. It didn't assuage any of the doubt.

i haven't brought up Acorn.

I am glad you understand where I got the "one employee crap". 

There was hundreds of acorn employees doing fraud. That's why it's now completely without donations. This co in Florida was fired. Old news. If you read fox daily like is you would know this 

So....If they did indeed register a bunch of dead people then requiring voter ID would at least prevent the dead from voting.

I agree wrong is wrong no matter which side you support. 

Unfortunately, Strategic Allied Consulting has been fired in North Carolina as well and a couple of other states. I am sure this will end up being nothing. Probably more planted 'evidence'.
Source 

hey randle...why didn't you acknowledge the author? 

hey randle...why didn't you acknowledge the author? 


I just copied and pasted the article, apparently the place I copied it from only put down that it was an AP story. Not that it matters, or that I am anyone that had a problem with the unsourced stories. 

or that I am anyone that had a problem with the unsourced stories.

but your cohorts do...and they are silent when their ilk does it 

AP is the source (and he posted that) and according to their guidelines that is acceptable.

*deleted and iced*

And don't link me with anyone else. My opinions are my own. 

ut your cohorts do...and they are silent when their ilk does it 


Mine still doesn't really fit your purposes. It does attribute the story to someone else, just not specifically. 

AP is the source (and he posted that) and according to their guidelines that is acceptable.

AP isn't the author...so you're still wrong

Look up their requirements yourself

...ahhh...did your feelings get hurt?...is it because you don't like it when someone turns your own words against your ilk?

It does attribute the story to someone else, just not specifically.

and other people...such as justforfun...attribute their posts to someone else by the structure of the post...just not specifically 

I agree wrong is wrong no matter which side you support.


I'm with you UK! Who cares what side the fraud is on? 

I think we need to focus more on why the military votes and registration is down 70% since 2008. But only in two states. Military and government officials are to blame for not getting the proper papers to our military over seas in time. And now the dem won't allow them to be counted 

...ahhh...did your feelings get hurt?...is it because you don't like it when someone turns your own words against your ilk?



I was genuine in my concern that authors were getting ripped off without the courtesy of attribution... and you make it an "us against them" issue.

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This is beyond humorous.

Liberals up in arms about possible vote fraud. 

This is beyond humorous.

Liberals up in arms about possible vote fraud. 


Nope. What is humorous is the same people that were losing their minds about Acorn and pushing for voter ID, just shrug their shoulders or justify this group. 

What is humorous is the same people that were losing their minds about Acorn and pushing for voter ID, just shrug their shoulders or justify this group.

Since you are against voter ID; how should voter fraud be dealt with? 

Isn't the difference that NO ONE fired ACORN regardless of the multiple frauds until public pressure forced it (and even then they continue to exist, albeit tenuously), whereas when ONE person was suspected of fraud, the ENTIRE COMPANY was fired and a formal complaint fired against them by the party that hired them??

Just making sure I'm understanding this right...

(And yes, voter fraud on ANY side is wrong.) 

I didn't read how they did the fraud--would it have been affected by voter ID at all? 

Boy, now we can get away with posting just about anything about anyone can't we?
What does is that to get put in the cooler for more than three days?


...ahhh...did your feelings get hurt?...is it because you don't like it when someone turns your own words against your ilk?

You do know you're an asshole right?

I was genuine in my concern that authors were getting ripped off without the courtesy of attribution... and you make it an "us against them" issue.

Well, it wasn't. But go to hell. I'm done with "your" ilk.  

Since you are against voter ID; how should voter fraud be dealt with? 


Actually, I'm not really against it. I don't really like it, but I'm not against it. I just think it's silly. The real fraud comes from absentee ballots, and no one is doing anything about that. The voter ID effect I believe is overblown on both sides. I think most of the people that might not vote because of the Id requirements are unlikely voters anyway, and I also think it will have little to no effect on voter fraud. It's sound and fury signifying nothing. 

I didn't read how they did the fraud--would it have been affected by voter ID at all? 


It's the same thing as Acorn. It's fake registration that no one is really going to go try to vote with. They just want to turn in the most amount forms possible.

What is more disturbing is older reports of this company possibly throwing away registration forms if the people were signing up as Democrats. 

What does is that to get put in the cooler for more than three days?

No worries. I'll be iced when the mods get home from work. No one is on right now.

Sorry to those that I offended *deleted- you don't get it, do you?*

But after being harassed and baited by JL for weeks, I cracked. And yes, that is exactly what he wanted. Such a good person and Christian... a role model for us all.

*Block feature can be your friend*

I will take my icing gracefully. Good day to you. 

Why do they want to turn it into as many registrations as possible? I don't understand the motive, unless to influence elections? 

Why do they want to turn it into as many registrations as possible? I don't understand the motive, unless to influence elections? 


They're hired to get people registered. The more they get, the more they can get paid. 

With Acorn, it was about funding. The more they turned in, they could expect to keep their funding for doing such a great job. 

AP is the source (and he posted that) and according to their guidelines that is acceptable.

Look up their requirements yourself, you asshole.

And don't link me with anyone else. My opinions are my own.

oh noes, LOKI! 

They're hired to get people registered. The more they get, the more they can get paid.

Ohhhhhhhh. . .so it really doesn't have much to do with politics at all. Follow the money.

Really crappy :(