Underscoring the prominent, if little discussed role that Mitt Romney played as a Mormon leader, the private equity giant once run by the GOP presidential frontrunner carved his church a slice of several of its most lucrative business deals, securities records show, providing it with millions of dollars worth of stock in some of Bain Capital's most well-known holdings.

Romney has always been a major donor to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which requires that members "tithe," or give 10 percent of their income to the church. His family charity, called the Tyler Foundation, has given more than $4 million to the church in the past five years, including $1.8 million in 2008 and $600,000 in 2009. But because Romney, whose fortune has been estimated at $250 million, has never released his personal tax returns, the full extent of his giving has never been public.

Newly uncovered stock contributions made during Romney's Bain days suggest there is another dimension to Romney's support for the church -- one that could involve millions more than has been previously disclosed. 

So what. A lot of people tithe 10% or even more to support their church. Big deal. I happen to think more of him for tithing...not less. Nice try though. A little late in the day for your pot stirring, isn't it? 

In order to keep their standing in the church and keep their Temple recommend up to date, they HAVE to pay their 10% tithe...the church keeps track of it. 

So what are you saying about people who choose to give money to their churches? 

Temple recommend up to date, they HAVE to pay their 10% tithe...the church keeps track of it.

I don't care what church you're in, HAVING to pay to keep your standing and the church keeping track of it is wrong in my opinion. It should be between that person and God like everything else, ultimately--but one has to answer to God in the end as well. 

This is all a distraction. Has he released his birth certificate yet? 

It doesn't matter. It is his business. If he wants to give nothing, or half of his income, to his church, for whatever reason, that is his business. Politicians do crazy things these days...take pics of their junk and send it to people, pay hookers for sex, dress up in strange attire and take pics of themselves. This guy gives 10% of his income to his church...Oh no, call the cops...he is out of control. lol 

Has he released his birth certificate yet?

First things first--still waiting on obama's here, let's see, his LAST year. 

I know right. Let's not make the same mistake again. We need absolute proof that this man is a U.S. citizen. 

Temple recommend up to date, they HAVE to pay their 10% tithe...the church keeps track of it.

I don't care what church you're in, HAVING to pay to keep your standing and the church keeping track of it is wrong in my opinion. It should be between that person and God like everything else, ultimately--but one has to answer to God in the end as well. 


I wasn't being flippant with my post, those are actually LDS church rules, as far as I know. 

It doesn't matter. It is his business. If he wants to give nothing, or half of his income, to his church, for whatever reason, that is his business. Politicians do crazy things these days...take pics of their junk and send it to people, pay hookers for sex, dress up in strange attire and take pics of themselves. This guy gives 10% of his income to his church...Oh no, call the cops...he is out of control. lol 

excellent post and I agree 100%. 

I wasn't being flippant with my post, those are actually LDS church rules, as far as I know.

I know you weren't. I'm just appalled that any church, regardless of denomination would demand and keep track of tithes. For me, it's ultimately up to that person and God privately. 

i couldn't care less that he tithes. just emphasizing that he is giving so much money to non-christians. not to mention his use of tax loopholes for the super rich and the hiding of said wealth. these things emphasis that mitt has cooties. 

I know right. Let's not make the same mistake again. We need absolute proof that this man is a U.S. citizen.

um, still waiting on the current--sad, no? 

For me, it's ultimately up to that person and God privately.


god doesn't ask me for dick. i don't have to hand over any % to be in good standing with my god. tfg. 

just emphasizing that he is giving so much money to non-christians.


Mormons are Christians...they really do walk the walk when you speak of being "Christ-like." 

meanwhile he totally avoids paying u.s. taxes by hiding his money in off shore accounts. imagine if we all did that. what a sleazebag. 

um, still waiting on the current--sad, no?

Well, we don't want history to repeat itself, no?

It's tough to stop the current commander in chief, but we sure can stop a private citizen seeking power from creating another constitutional crisis. 

Mormons are Christians...they really do walk the walk when you speak of being "Christ-like."


well you and i may think that but the evangelical ku-like christians don't even believe that catholics are christian's for devil's sake. 

god doesn't ask me for dick. i don't have to hand over any % to be in good standing with my god. tfg.


You are one class act...

Have a good evening. :) 

well you and i may think that but the evangelical ku-like christians don't even believe that catholics are christian's for devil's sake. 


Yeah, I don't understand that type of mentality at all.

If you believe in Christ and his teachings and live a "Christ-like" lifestyle, do your best to emulate him, etc, you're a Christian. 

If you believe in Christ and his teachings and live a "Christ-like" lifestyle, do your best to emulate him, etc, you're a Christian.


Amen to that DP! :) 

For me, it's ultimately up to that person and God privately.


god doesn't ask me for dick. i don't have to hand over any % to be in good standing with my god

Go you and your god then. 

If you believe in Christ and his teachings and live a "Christ-like" lifestyle, do your best to emulate him, etc, you're a Christian.

I can generally agree with that, but right or wrong, when groups differ on what Christ did, there will be problems. Mormons follow teachings/stories of Christ that mainstream Christians don't believe happened. So according to Protestants/Catholics, Mormons are following a made up story of Christ, which doesn't make them actual Christians. That is an issue.

Still, I commend the Mormons for having the gravitas to have Christ come to early America to teach. Even though Christ wasn't successful in converting the Native Americans (hey, that's a tall task for anyone) it's still one of the single greatest patriotic beliefs to follow. 

It's tough to stop the current commander in chief, but we sure can stop a private citizen seeking power from creating another constitutional crisis

nonsensical comment. 

nonsensical comment.

Nonsense. It is easier to stop someone from becoming President for being a non citizen than it is to remove them from office once they get elected. What on earth is hard to understand about that?

So, IF Mitt is a non citizen, it will be MUCH easier to catch it now than once he gets into the White House. That's what I'm saying. Because we have the current President as an example, let's not make the same mistake again and properly vet this guy's citizenship NOW before it's too late. 

Mormons follow teachings/stories of Christ that mainstream Christians don't believe happened. So according to Protestants/Catholics, Mormons are following a made up story of Christ, which doesn't make them actual Christians. That is an issue.

What?

Still, I commend the Mormons for having the gravitas to have Christ come to early America to teach. Even though Christ wasn't successful in converting the Native Americans (hey, that's a tall task for anyone) it's still one of the single greatest patriotic beliefs to follow.

Twilight zone. 

I can generally agree with that, but right or wrong, when groups differ on what Christ did, there will be problems.


I know, however, I really do think Mormons try to live as cleanly and honestly (Christ-like) as possible and their church philosophy is all about family and helping others.

It's a great religion, if you don't mind the dogma...lol. 

Twilight zone.

I know right. Jesus preaching to the injuns. You just can't make this stuff up. 

This thread makes me laugh.

Seriously grasping at straws with this one. 

Nonsense. It is easier to stop someone from becoming President for being a non citizen than it is to remove them from office once they get elected. What on earth is hard to understand about that?

Well, the whole idea that they shouldn't even be there in the first place because of it? ..and it's a crime? and so much more?

So, IF Mitt is a non citizen, it will be MUCH easier to catch it now than once he gets into the White House. That's what I'm saying. Because we have the current President as an example, let's not make the same mistake again and properly vet this guy's citizenship NOW before it's too late.

:| You go with that. 

It's a great religion, if you don't mind the dogma...lol.

Mormons are (outside of people from Minnesota) probably the nicest people on the face of the earth. I will say that. 

Well, the whole idea that they shouldn't even be there in the first place because of it? ..and it's a crime? and so much more?

So true! Preaching to the choir. That's why I think we shouldn't allow the crime to happen to us again. Maybe we should get the birth certificate ahead of time. You know, before they become president. That doesn't sound crazy to me. 

Maybe we should get the birth certificate ahead of time. You know, before they become president. That doesn't sound crazy to me.

Doesn't sound crazy to me either. I agree with that totally. 

Doesn't sound crazy to me either. I agree with that totally.

Amen!

Do Mormons say Amen! I don't know, thought it would be fitting for this thread.

I do know that Mormons can only ever give a 90% effort, because 10% is always held back to the church. 

Do Mormons say Amen!


Yes. 

Churches keep records of donations so they can send year end reports to the donors for tax purposes. 

I'm just appalled that any church, regardless of denomination would demand and keep track of tithes.

Is it wrong for a church to expect a standard of behavior out of it's members? and keep track of it? 

It appears the OP intended to bash Romney with the comment. Then, when it appeared that no one cared or was offended, the original poster moved on to talking about how it wasn't about donating to the church, but the fact that he hides money. Because this had nothing to do with the first comment, perhaps it may have been better to simply say, "I don't like Romney." 

It appears the OP intended to bash Romney with the comment.

Bingo. Modus Operandi for the OP.

It's all just a veiled attempt to keep the conversation away from Obama and his horrible record.