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RenMan --- 6 years ago -

Arpaio: Obama birth record 'definitely fraudulent'
Associated Press – 9 hrs ago
Yahoo News - Associated Press

PHOENIX (AP) — Investigators for an Arizona sheriff's volunteer posse have declared that President Barack Obama's birth certificate is definitely fraudulent.
Members of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio's posse said in March that there was probable cause that Obama's long-form birth certificate released by the White House in April 2011 was a computer-generated forgery.
Now, Arpaio says investigators are positive it's fraudulent.
Mike Zullo, the posse's chief investigator, said numeric codes on certain parts of the birth certificate indicate that those parts weren't filled out, yet those sections asking for the race of Obama's father and his field of work or study were completed.
Zullo said investigators previously didn't know the meaning of codes but they were explained by a 95-year-old former state worker who signed the president's birth certificate. Zullo said a writer who published a book about Obama's birth certificate and was aiding investigators let them listen in on an interview he conducted of the former state worker.
The Obama campaign declined to comment on Arpaio's allegations.
The Arizona Democratic Party said in a statement that Arpaio's investigation is intended to draw attention away from problems within his own agency, such as hundreds of sex-crime cases that the sheriff's office failed to adequately investigate over a three-year period.
So-called "birthers" maintain Obama is ineligible to be president because, they contend, he was born in Kenya.
Hawaii officials have repeatedly confirmed Obama's citizenship, and state officials did again Tuesday.
"President Obama was born in Honolulu and his birth certificate is valid," Joshua A. Wisch, a special assistant to Hawaii's attorney general, said in a statement. "Regarding the latest allegations from a sheriff in Arizona, they are untrue, misinformed, and misconstrue Hawaii law."
Wisch also said that "not only are Hawaii's vital records some of the best managed, but they also have some of the strongest restrictions on access to prevent identity theft and fraud."
Obama released a copy of his long-form birth certificate in an attempt to quell citizenship questions.
Courts have rebuffed lawsuits over the issue. 

Work in Progress --- 6 years ago -

I was never a birther before, but everyone has to admit, it's weird. Especially when the publishing house had his author's bio state that he was born in Kenya.

I worked in publishing. EVERYONE knows that authors write their own bios. What are the chances that you would not only WRITE that big of an error in your own bio, but then continually choose to not correct it. . .

Anyone else accidentally claiming to be born on other continents? It's absurd. 

LiveFreeOrDie --- 6 years ago -

If he was born in Kenya why would there have been a birth announcement in two Hawaiian news papers?

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RenMan --- 6 years ago -

ARPAIO'S OBAMA PROBE FINDS 'NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT'
Hawaii found to be bogus birth-certificate factory

PHOENIX – After determining earlier this year there is probable cause to suspect the document released by the White House as Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a forgery, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio said today he believes his Cold Case Posse’s investigation should be advanced to the federal government, based on further information released today at a press conference under way now in Phoenix that is being live-streamed by WND.

Cold Case Posse lead investigator Mike Zullo said the new information confirms the document presented to the American public in April 2011 is undoubtedly fraudulent.

The Obama campaign declined to comment on Arpaio’s allegations.

Arpaio told WND he intends to move the investigation and the new information to a higher authority within the federal government because of what he calls an imminent threat to national security and U.S. immigration laws. The threat is posed by a flaw in Hawaii’s law discovered by his investigators that allows a foreigner to obtain a Hawaii birth certificate.

“Although I am having a difficult time deciding who to forward this information to given the fact that the obvious choices report directly to the president, I cannot stand by and hold on to information that threatens to weaken national security,” Arpaio said.

Arpaio said he intends on keeping a case file open if more information surfaces or if federal authorities decide to ignore the case.

Zullo explained that along with new information discovered regarding the birth certificate since the posse’s March 1 press conference, his team has discovered Hawaii provides easy access to a birth certificate, even if the child wasn’t born in the state.

Under Hawaii Revised Statute 338-17.8, a person only has to be an established resident of Hawaii, not necessarily a U.S. citizen, and pay taxes there for one year to be able to register an out-of-state or foreign-born person with an official Hawaii birth certificate.


“If a nation’s security is only as strong as its weakest link, then America may be in serious trouble,” Arpaio said in a statement. “Hawaii may be our weakest link and could have a serious impact on our nation’s immigration policy.”

Among the new findings presented by lead Cold Case Posse investigator Mike Zullo:

The sheriff’s investigators have learned of a birth certificate coding system that indicates the White House document has been altered.
An interview with the Hawaii official who allegedly signed the Obama document in 1961, Verna K.L. Lee, provided further confirmation of the coding anomalies.
Investigators were troubled to find key information missing on the verification document Hawaii provided to Arizona’s secretary of state in May.
Hawaii’s deputy attorney general, Jill T. Nagamine, confirm the state has a birth document on file for Obama. But she would not confirm on the record that the White House document matched what was on file with the Hawaii Department of Health.
The sheriff’s investigators interviewed three persons of interest who have provided additional information in the case.
In prepared opening remarks, Arpaio chastised the media for the way it has handled the investigation.

“You have demeaned this investigation at every turn as silly and wasteful,” he said. “Your contempt about the subject and me for pursuing it has been duly noted.”

He urged media members to listen to Zullo’s presentation of the new evidence.

“Keep an open mind if you can,” he said. “Put away all you pre conceived ideas. Keep your eye on the ball.”

Arpaio’s investigation was initiated last October when 250 Maricopa County citizens approached him for help because they believed the electronic document presented by the White House to the American public was a forgery. Arpaio said he went ahead with the probe with the intent of being able to clear the president and put the matter to rest. But he explained the investigation found too many inconsistencies on the birth certificate.

“We also looked into the president’s selective service registration card and found that it, too, appeared to be fraudulent,” Arpaio said.

Investigators since then have traveled to Hawaii and have interviewed more witnesses, the sheriff said.

Addressing the coding issue, Zullo explained that the Hawaii Department of Health, which categorized vital information issued at the time of the president’s birth, used specific number codes that were written in pencil to transfer information from a paper birth certificate to a database file.

The codes seen on the document issued by the White House are not consistent with the information entered into the various fields, indicating the document has been altered or amended.

In the coding system, the number 9 indicates the information is not stated, meaning there should not be any information in the box in which the number is written.

However, the number 9 can be seen written in pencil next to the fields for “Usual Occupation,” “Kind of Business or Industry” and “Race of Father” on Obama’s document. Each of those fields are filled with information.

“This proves the document has been tampered with and information has been placed on it,” Zullo said.

Sheriff’s investigators tracked down the registrar who allegedly signed the White House’s birth document, U.K. Lee, who is now 95. She provided information that posed further inconsistencies with the story of Obama’s birth at the Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in 1961.

The investigators also analyzed the Hawaii Department of Health’s response to Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett’s request that Obama’s birth information be verified.

They interviewed in person the Hawaii assistant attorney general to verify that the document presented by the White House was the same document on file with the Department of Health.

Investigators said they were troubled to find key information missing on the verification document, including the president’s date of birth.

They said they were equally troubled that the deputy attorney general would not confirm on record that the White House document matched what was on file with the health department.

The national security concerns raised by the investigation are based on Hawaii Revised Statute 338.17.8. which states:
338-17.8 Certificates for children born out of state.

Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

Arpaio and his investigators said they have deep concerns that the Hawaii Revised Statute is a loophole that makes it possible for foreign born children to illegally establish U.S. citizenship.

They said the concern is also relevant given the recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling concerning Arizona’s proposed state immigration law, SB 1070, in which the federal court ruled state laws cannot be in contradiction or in conflict with federal law.

Zullo noted that, normally, when it’s necessary to prove a person is a U.S. Citizen, the main form of documentation is a state certificate of birth.

“It appears that in the case of Hawaii law, any person can obtain a birth certificate if any adult or their parents can prove that they resided in Hawaii for one year and paid taxes,” he said. “There is no requirement to show that the child itself was actually born in Hawaii or on U.S. soil.”

More to come … 

BuiltinTX70 --- 6 years ago -

My goodness, shame on you for even STILL bringing this up.....I mean, really??? 

shiney side up --- 6 years ago -

If he was born in Kenya why would there have been a birth announcement in two Hawaiian news papers?


The newspaper announcement was made 9 days after the fact. The announcement was not a ‘birth’ announcement but a registration announcement that is consistent with anybody obtaining a COLB and moving to Hawaii.

Notice the date of publication being August 13, 1961 and the red arrow where a [[registration record]] is filed with the Health Bureau Statistics, which shows a son is born “somewhere” on August 4, 1961. This is NOT a ’29 Gazillion to one’ , this is normal protocol of the Health Bureau of Hawaii. It simply shows someone filed & registered for a COLB in Hawaii, much like Sun Yat Sen did in April 1904. A COLB is not a ‘Live Birth Long Form Certificate’, in fact, A COLB cannot even be used by native Hawaiians to obtain a drivers license. 

Pat Barry --- 6 years ago -

Smells like sour grapes 

RenMan --- 6 years ago -

My goodness, shame on you for even STILL bringing this up.....I mean, really???

This isn't the same information as before. Now we know:
1. The BC provided by the WH is a fraud.
2. Hawaiian law allows for foreign born individuals to have an official birth certificate. 

Pat Barry --- 6 years ago -

L O S E R S 

Dr Aborto --- 6 years ago -

If he was born in Kenya why would there have been a birth announcement in two Hawaiian news papers?

Easy. Time Travel. 

esquala --- 6 years ago -

Just leave it alone. Good grief. Even if Arpaio proves it's fraudulent, at this point, it looks like such sour grapes, it has no merit anymore. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 6 years ago -

this is just silly-there are so many REAL reasons to NOT elect Obama again! What esquala said!!! All you're doing is helping the dems distract from the economy!!!!!!! 

esquala --- 6 years ago -

Doesn't Arpaio have some prisoners he's supposed to be looking after? 

rEVOLution --- 6 years ago -

If he was born in Kenya why would there have been a birth announcement in two Hawaiian news papers?

I tend to follow the same belief as Jerome Corsi that Obama's mother, his grandmother, and his father were all at one time or another CIA assets. Corsi has investigated Obama's past and in doing so believes the family had CIA connections through the FORD foundation and a few others.

I honestly do not believe that he was born in Kenya but I do believe that his birth certificate is fake due to all of the exposed proof of photo shop editing and the many different layers that were found when the "official" document was uploaded to the White House website for the world to see.

I also believe that Obama lost his US citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia as a child and that he never regained that citizenship as there has been no record of him doing so.

There is also a huge error on his civil service card that was recently exposed as a complete fraud.



I don't think the question anymore is where he was born but rather why are all of his documents full of deliberate errors? Is this whole fraudulent document conspiracy being used to cover up something more?

Also, Hawaii never did answer the question why on an August 4, 1961 birth certificate his Father was listed as African instead of Negro which would have been the word used in 1961 to describe his Race. His mother was listed as Caucasian, not American so his father would have been listed as Negro, not African. 

rEVOLution --- 6 years ago -

this is just silly-there are so many REAL reasons to NOT elect Obama again!

Yes, it's called Usurpation. But also that he has lied repeatedly, while not a crime it's certainly not a characteristic of someone we want as president. But he also betrayed Americans when he reinstated the patriot act, signed the 2012 NDAA which allows for military detention of US citizens without a trial, he vowed to force Americans to pay for other peoples health care, he murdered three US citizens in Yemen. I could go on and on but the fact that his documents have been forged is a huge deal. I can't understand how anyone would think that's not a big deal. 

esquala --- 6 years ago -

why are all of his documents full of deliberate errors?

Keeps rabid dogs like Arpaio busy, and keeps the focus off real reasons why BO shouldn't be re-elected. 

Quixote --- 6 years ago -

Is Obama is eligible, by birth, to be president? Most likely. The "natural born" question is nebulous and subject to interpretation in that it's not open for discussion. Is the White House provided birth certificate a fraud? It certainly appears so. Is the Selective Service card fraudulent. It appears likely. Is the Social Security Number fraudulent. More than likely. Did Obama spend millions of dollars to prevent public disclosure of this information? Absolutely. Therefore, number of inconsistencies and questions thorougly eliminate any possibility of coincidence. A wise and prudent person must conclude that there exists a high probability a felony or multiple federal felonies have been committed to avoid disclosure of said information. At the very least, a federal investigation is warranted. In that the DOJ has demonstrated unconscionable bias and proven intent to avoid prosecuting crimes based on political cronyism, a congressional investigation is not only warranted, it is mandated. Unfortunatley, it's doubtful that anyone, on either side of the aisle, have the 'juevos' to pursue it. That leaves it in the hands of the people to pursue any and all legal means to investigate and take appropriate action to ensure full disclosure of information and, if necessary,that justice is served. 

shiney side up --- 6 years ago -

There is also a huge error on his civil service card that was recently exposed as a complete fraud.



WASHINGTON, May 7, 2012 — Changes in the wording of Selective Service System record-keeping requirements, made days after the opening of an investigation into the alleged forgery of President Barack Obama’s selective service registration form, raise serious questions about U.S. Government intentions.

The new rules allow existing copies of documents that may be sought by investigators to be destroyed.

The Selective Service System’s new privacy rules were published in the Federal Register on Tuesday, September 20, 2011, four days after the September 16 announcement by World Net Daily that the Maricopa County (Arizona) Sheriff’s Office “Cold Case Posse” was opening an inquiry with full subpoena power into alleged forgery of several documents concerning Obama’s birth and draft registration.

The new rules, which constitute the first update to Selective Service System privacy regulations in eleven years, were published under the title, “Privacy Act of 1974; Publication of Notice of Systems of Records.”
 

Let Logic Prevail --- 6 years ago -

Investigators for an Arizona sheriff's volunteer posse have declared that President Barack Obama's birth certificate is definitely fraudulent.


Who cares what these folks declare.



I was never a birther before, but everyone has to admit, it's weird. Especially when the publishing house had his author's bio state that he was born in Kenya.

It's not weird. It's a crock. Amazing what some of you will believe. 

shiney side up --- 6 years ago -

An interesting documentary on one facet of the coverup surrounding Barack Obama's ineligibility to be president of the United States.

One of the few solid pieces of information which could have shown whether Barack Obama was re-patriated to the US from his Indonesian adoption, would have been his mother's (Stanley Dunham) passport records.

Strangely, the State Department - which is supposed to keep all passport records from 1924 onward - claims Stanley Dunham's passport records (ca 1964) were among some "destroyed" as being unnecessary.

Obama Records DISAPPEAR - State Department Oddly Claims Passport Records Destroyed : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

pretty good video on that site 

A Simple Equation --- 6 years ago -

That leaves it in the hands of the people to pursue any and all legal means to investigate and take appropriate action to ensure full disclosure of information and, if necessary,that justice is served.

Quixote has posted, by FAR, the most intelligent response on this thread. Too bad this conclustion is unlikely to happen because you specifically state, which is 100% correct, that "it is in the hands of the people..."

Therein lies the great problem this nation faces. What we have as can be seen as a microcosm by simply reading the comments and "opinions" on this local community forum, is that very few people have any critical thinking skills in this country. This was all done by design when the Federal government took over public schooling and removed the classical liberal education from our curriculum, also known at the Trivium and Quadrivium. Read Gatto and Iserbyt to understand the takeover of our "education" system to convert it into the Prussian INDOCTRINATION system. Home schoolers have it right. Public education is child abuse, pure and simple.

The T&Q are the keys to understanding knowledge, learning how to learn and how use your mind the way it was intended. What we have is a nation of mockingbirds, merely repeating what they have heard on TV or from their favorite, biased media source. There is no critical thought put into anything which is why our nation and world is in the shape it's in. Everyone "thinks" they're right because of this false belief in their "right" to their "opinion," but in reality their beliefs have been formed externally via direct propaganda, lies and deception, not internally via opining (the root of the word opinion) and removing contradictions. They have no antivirus program with which to filter out logical fallacies or to verify information as truth or not from their biological computers (their mind). If taken to its' logical conclusion, we can surmise that everyone is "right" about everything because they are "entitled" to believe what they want!! So much for debate, providing evidence and removing contradictions...

THIS is the PRIMARY cause of all the ills which face humanity. Our ability to THINK has been stolen and we have been programmed to give our power and free will away to "experts," "authority figures," and "powers greater than ourselves" in exchange for "security" and a big brother nanny state to care for us from cradle to grave. No longer are we the land of the free and home of the brave.

Our Creator gave us all consciousness and free will to figure out the nature of the universe as well as natural laws by which to conduct ourselves and our interactions with one another and nature. And what did we do with that? We created religion and government to control our lives.

Go figure... 

JohnLynch --- 6 years ago -

The "natural born" question is nebulous and subject to interpretation in that it's not open for discussion.

not if you look at the laws that were in effect during the time frame that he was born

We created religion and government to control our lives.

not accurate...men did create religion...but God created government...it is true that men have distorted the government that God created 

justforfun1 --- 6 years ago -

THIS is the PRIMARY cause of all the ills which face humanity. Our ability to THINK has been stolen and we have been programmed to give our power and free will away to "experts," "authority figures," and "powers greater than ourselves" in exchange for "security" and a big brother nanny state to care for us from cradle to grave. No longer are we the land of the free and home of the brave.




AMEN!!!!!!!! 

rEVOLution --- 6 years ago -

Is Obama is eligible, by birth, to be president? Most likely. The "natural born" question is nebulous and subject to interpretation in that it's not open for discussion. Is the White House provided birth certificate a fraud? It certainly appears so. Is the Selective Service card fraudulent. It appears likely. Is the Social Security Number fraudulent. More than likely. Did Obama spend millions of dollars to prevent public disclosure of this information? Absolutely. Therefore, number of inconsistencies and questions thorougly eliminate any possibility of coincidence. A wise and prudent person must conclude that there exists a high probability a felony or multiple federal felonies have been committed to avoid disclosure of said information. At the very least, a federal investigation is warranted. In that the DOJ has demonstrated unconscionable bias and proven intent to avoid prosecuting crimes based on political cronyism, a congressional investigation is not only warranted, it is mandated. Unfortunatley, it's doubtful that anyone, on either side of the aisle, have the 'juevos' to pursue it. That leaves it in the hands of the people to pursue any and all legal means to investigate and take appropriate action to ensure full disclosure of information and, if necessary,that justice is served.

That was worth repeating. Well said. 

rEVOLution --- 6 years ago -

Let Logic Prevail --- 1 hours ago - edit - quote - put user in the ice box - put user in the ice box and remove recent comments - hide comments

Investigators for an Arizona sheriff's volunteer posse have declared that President Barack Obama's birth certificate is definitely fraudulent.


Who cares what these folks declare.



I was never a birther before, but everyone has to admit, it's weird. Especially when the publishing house had his author's bio state that he was born in Kenya.

It's not weird. It's a crock. Amazing what some of you will believe.



If only one word of any of Obama's documents was created fraudulently then a crime has been committed. There is overwhelming evidence that this is the case so YES I care. Everyone in the world should care considering how much blood is on BHO's hands and how many unspeakable laws he has signed into existence.

The fact that you choose to think this is all a crock and can't be real just shows how out of touch you really are with the world around you. Or it shows that you have not honestly looked at any of the evidence. There are horrible people with a lot of money doing horrible things in this world, sooner or later it will affect you personally enough to where you will care.

The "Law Enforcement Officers" and Lawyers you referred to above have found solid evidence that should keep Obama off of the ballot in Arizona, that's why we should all care. 

rEVOLution --- 6 years ago -

A Simple Equation --- 1 hours ago

Wow, well said. But I fear that anyone not studying the Trivium and Quadrivium might not have a clue what you are talking about. I understand exactly what you're saying and it's spot on. Thanks for sharing that. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 6 years ago -

like you two don't talk all the time..yawn.. 

JohnLynch --- 6 years ago -

That was worth repeating. Well said.

except for the statement..."Is Obama is eligible, by birth, to be president? Most likely"...NOT most likely 

full of faith --- 6 years ago -

now let's look at the real reason this guy's get a bug up his beehole.


The latest pronouncements are a return to the issue for Arpaio, who is seeking reelection in November. Further, they come as the federal government is scheduled to begin Thursday its civil trial against Arpaio, accused of racially profiling Latinos. 

rEVOLution --- 6 years ago -

now let's look at the real reason this guy's get a bug up his beehole.

He's been re-elected five times since 1992 and is known as one of America's toughest Sheriffs. I don't think he needs to pick a fight with the President to get re-elected. He could have kept his mouth shut and continued doing what he's been doing and gotten the job. If anything he has put his job at risk by raising these points and the immigration stance he has taken. 

Red Heifer --- 6 years ago -

Anyone think that Joe Arpaio's 15 minutes came and went 5 years ago. The man needs to go away. He has become an embarassment.

Barack Obama is the President. If you don't like him, find some reason to elect someone else. 

rEVOLution --- 6 years ago -


Barack Obama is the President. If you don't like him, find some reason to elect someone else.


Fraudulently. It's not about liking him. It's about accountability for obvious fraudulent documents that have been used to get him to where he is.

If Bush or anyone else had used a forged document of any kind don't you all think they would have been called out on it? Of course nothing would have happened because Americans don't care about politics and those that do don't know how to do anything about it. Then those who do act are called crazy, lame, racist, or a conspiracy kook. 

rEVOLution --- 6 years ago -

If the name of the team doing this investigation sounds silly to you, let's look at it real quick.

Arpaio is calling his team a Posse.

pos·se/ˈpäsē/
Noun:

1. A body of men, typically armed, summoned by a sheriff to enforce the law.

I don't like how Arpaio is claiming that this is breaking news or shocking information. It certainly is not helping him by ignoring all the people before him that have already exposed what he has recently "learned".

This is far from breaking news. They claim it was "Shocking" what they found but this information was exposed more than two years ago. Then Obama stated that the certificate he had shown was the ONLY birth Certificate he had.

This is just one of many videos out there of people exposing this fraud THREE years ago.

There have also been NUMEROUS lawsuits by at least two different lawyers on this matter over that past few years.



This one is from a year ago.




Then after more pressure he releases ANOTHER, ONLY birth certificate and both were found to have multiple fraudulent digital edits on the documents.


The evidence that Arpaio's Posse has found.



If anyone would like to watch the video and then debate the information and evidence found, let me know. 

txsassy --- 6 years ago -

This thread started with NOTHING and has ALL of it left. 

witchywoman --- 78 days ago -

Obama joined a growing movement of so-called "schoolers," who contend that Trump never attended school. 

sdanielmcev --- 78 days ago -

And, I've never been to Spain 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 78 days ago -

Ahhh Ren Man 

Prolix Raconteur --- 78 days ago -

Something pretty deranged about digging up a 6 year old thread to make some obscure (and pretty weak) attempt at anti Trump humor. #FAIL

TDS is real! LOL... 

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