Did anyone else get upset knowing Humble re zoned the district to include bringing students from the Deerbrook area to Kingwood schools? I was at orintation today and the lines were hrs long to find out just in 8th grade athletics we took in 58 kids from HMS. In RMS we are now paying higher school taxes than kids we are paying to bus to our school. I know for our family it was a choice to move to an area that we would pay higher taxes, higher water bills to allow our kids to go to certain schools. Why bother. 

I'm confused, are you saying they only transferred in 8th grade athletes? 

The boundaries were re-drawn or they are transfer students? Isn't the deerbrook area zoned to SMS not HMS? 

Map:

http://www.humbleisd.net/cms/lib2/TX01001414/Centricity/Domain/5/MSzones2011-12.pdf 

That is a map from last year, are they hiding a change? 

Their school didn't make the "grade" , so they are eligible to transfer to schools that did make the grade. CMS has gotten over 100 of them, so I hear. They are transferring all over the district, not just rms. 

I understand how you feel and it may be no consultation, but Deerbrook goes to Humble Elementary, and that is a fantastic school. 

Also, the school will get more grants and Title I money. 

So is there anyone left at HMS? 

I don't understand this at all! I guess that explaines why it took an hour and a half to register. How are those kids going to get here? I hope the district doesn't have to pay to bus them here especially since they took bus service away from my kids. 

So is the group that wants to leave being split evenly among the other middle schools? How are the schools going to absorb this? I have heard AMS is full so that would increase the amount going to KMS CMS and RMS. 

The HMS website has info and FAQ's, regarding this matter. Looks like transportation will be provided to the transfer students. Title I $$ will not follow those students. 

That's wonderful that parents are given a chance to move their kids from lower performing teachers and schools in to better opportunities.

It is all the same district so it's all good.

It's for the children!!!! 

I'd be interested to know how many extra kids went into 7th grade at RMS. I have a son in 7th and thought there was already a large intake in that grade. 

I would think all the other middle schools are at capacity or close to it. How many kids would be left at HMS? Interesting. Sort of an embarrassment for the district for one of their schools not to meet this AYP/standards for 2 years in a row and now they are forced to offer these kids a transfer. 

It doesn't appear the district has a choice. It's would be the same in any district. It does give the children an opportunity to attend a better school. 

I just spoke with a teacher friend of mine and she was told that the total transfer to all kingwood schools is 35. That doesnt seem like a lot. Did anyone hear anything else? 

Jack's Mom--you are right. I think the transfer numbers have been over inflated. I heard the same thing you did. 

In 2011 TMS and HMS did not make AYP (as far as middle schools go.) I do know that HMS missed it in 2011 by 2 kids ESL (English as a Second Language). You ask why? What happened? The state has made changes in the last several years. One of them is that if you come to Texas from another country and do not speak English (ie, French, Spanish, Russian,etc,) you will still take the same tests that everyone will in certain areas. This hurt many of the schools. For example, if you come in speaking Russian in the 7th grade, you are still required to take the writing test. In years past, they were exempt. The schools that have a high number of these ESL students definately felt a hit. Think of these poor kids!!! Write 3 essays and you don't speak English!! Tough.. Anyway, the state raised the standards again in 2012. Now, HMS had to meet even higher standards with tougher exemptions. They failed to do this by a hand full of kids again. That means that the students currently enrolled can transfer to any school in the district. Many schools did not make AYP for 2012, they include Ross Sterling, Woodcreek, Timberwood, HMS and the only high school that did make it was Kingwood Park. YOu can go to the link to check it out:
http://ritter.tea.state.tx.us/ayp/2012/index.html
Unfortunately politics plays a big role in how we rate our schools. I will stop there because that is a long discussion. Finally, the teachers and administration all work very hard, long hours to get the kids ready for the assessments. Thanks teachers and admin for all you do.... 

Unfortunately politics plays a big role in how we rate our schools. I will stop there because that is a long discussion. Finally, the teachers and administration all work very hard, long hours to get the kids ready for the assessments. Thanks teachers and admin for all you do....


It is unrealistic to expect that just because they make rules in Austin that kids will make certain levels of progress regardless of their skills or language or learning problems. A teacher can't just wave a magic wand.

yes, disadvantaged kids are going to have more strikes against them just like 2nd language kids. but measuring progress is not just about test scores. and moving kids around the district isnt the answer either, although part of me thinks mixing up the kids can be a good thing. I just dont think it is going to bring a lot of lower performing kids up.

the problem is that I would be willing to bet that a lot of the kids that are being transferred are not the kids that are not being successful. cant blame the parents for moving them, a lot of us would do it too. but where does that leave the school? now they have fewer successful students and more of bad rep. sort of a catch22. 

You are correct me again. There are so many angles to this. I just hope it all gets worked out. 

35 kids transferring to 3 different schools, isn't a big deal, imo. Also, I would be willing to bet these are good students with parents who care...otherwise, they wouldn't have bothered to transfer at all. 

Thank goodness my kids are out of here! Most of the transfer students I met in the last few years came here to play sports.

Just remember, while you are accepting of these new kids, most are here to play sports. That is 35 less chances that your son or daughter is going to make a sports team or get a schlorship.

I have seen it with my own eyes, and talked to the parents while at a football or baseball game. 

Reading these comments... there's a big discrepancy between 58 kids in one grade at RMS, over 100 total at CMS, and an overall total transfer to Kingwood schools of 35. 

Whether they're here for sports or not is irrelevant. If someone is good at sports, adding another 35 kids won't make a difference. If a child is mediocre and someone more talented transfers in, that other child deserves to be on the team. They want the best players, transfer student or not.

This thread is so petty...god forbid the district allow kids from a failing school to attend a better one....

How childish is that sort of attitude? 

I think every child is entitled to a quality education...that the kids are bussed in doesn't bother me. The kids can't help what family/income they were born into. 

Several years back our elementary school didn't meet ratings and we were allowed to transfer. We did transfer our child because we felt it was best. We are also zoned to HMS, but we do not live by Deerbrook Mall. To the OP; do you think just because you live in Kingwood that these children don't deserve to be allowed to transfer? How would you feel if you were in the same situation with your children? We all pay taxes to the district no matter where we live. We made the decision years ago that we would not still be here for our kids to go to HMS but I don't think that it's fair to not allow the transfers. JMO! 

I agree with you allycat....

If people took the time to look at situations like this from a different perspective, I think their attitude would change drastically.

If a Kingwood school was suddenly failing and people had the option to transfer to a better school, they'd do it in a New York minute AND they'd expect their child to have every opportunity a "zoned" child has...sports teams and all. 

As long as the school is not at capacity I don't see why it would be a problem. Now if they were transferring JUST to be on a specific sports team then that would be a problem.

I do see where it is a problem to the already busted budgets to also bus the kids. They need to stick to the rules of NO buses on transfers. My son is on a transfer to another school because of our issues with the zoned school. He is not bused over there I get my happy butt in the car and drive him to the school I requested. I do know that Atascocita kids going to K Park get bused over there and I do not think it is right at all. We could use that bus right here in Atascocita to save kids walking to AMS or TMS and crossing busy streets and walking bayous to get to and from school. 

My son played football and baseball, obviously everyone can be on the football team, but there are alot fewer players on the baseball team. I know kids who were great ball players, but maybe not as good as 4 transfer kids. Who got the spot? Not the kid that was born and raised in Kingwood.

Some people moved from the front of Kingwood to the back just so their kids could attend KHS instead of KPHS. What about them? What was the point?

I'm glad you are so nice and accepting. I think it's wonderful to allow outside kids into our "tight knit" community. I'm sure they won't bring down our test scores, I'm sure our teachers won't take any time away from your kids to catch them up. I'm sure they all speak perfect english.

Let's see if you are singing the same tune in 4 or so years. This isn't the first time this has happened in the Humble ISD. Take a good look at Humble High School! 

Actually, they are from the same school district. How does that make them "outside kids?" 

Kinda like the people on the titanic. If you paid a lower fare you weren't allowed to go to the top to get in a life boat.

I guess they should have paid more. Then their kids would have had a chance to survive.

If they were causing over crowding and or bringing the level of education down that would be different. It's not the kids fault the district failed. 

We provide our own transportation...we were told no buses for transfers and that is perfectly fine. The whole point is we all pay taxes. As long as you are granted a legitimate transfer or you move in order to attend different schools that is all that matters. If my transferred child wishes to play sports and works hard and is good then heck yeah he/she should make the team over a child that was born in Kingwood. Give me a break. Just because you are born and raised in Kingwood or any other area does not make you better than another child. Geez! 

If they want their kids in our schools they can do exactly what we did and move here.

People like their communities, people like the small time feel of Kingwood. What does your comminuty mean to you? Let's bus em' in from the 5th ward! Who cares?

I'm promise you, your child or someone else's you know, will lose their dream to play high school ball because of a transfer kid. 

I'm promise you, your child or someone else's you know, will lose their dream to play high school ball because of a transfer kid. 


Who gives a rats azz about who gets to play sports. Getting an education is what school should be about. These kids are from OUR district. Tbe school district failed them but not making the mark. The rules are that they CAN transfer. If you don't like the rules work to have them changed otherwise don't try to punish kids put in a bad situation that's not their fault. 

If your child or mine doesn't make the team then that means they aren't as good as the transfer student! Not rocket science! The kids and parents who care should not be punished for the shortcomings of a whole school! Again, we pay taxes just like you! 

Lol, I don't really care, mine are off to college, and out of this stupid school district. I was just trying to make you aware of what you are faced with.

Let's all go stay at the motel 6, but walk down the street and enjoy the ammenties at the Ritz Carlton. Seriously? 

Let's all go stay at the motel 6, but walk down the street and enjoy the ammenties at the Ritz Carlton. Seriously


We do that all the time. Don't you? 

I am totally getting a "all hail kingwood" vibe and that just totally cracks me up.

If they want their kids in our schools they can do exactly what we did and move here.

I would agree if they were just wanting a transfer because it is a better school. That is not the case they are transferring because they pay HISD too and they also deserve a school that meets standards.

As far as the sports thing hey if they get beat out then they get beat out. Put them on a club/league and try again next year. 

If I paid for a room and taxes at both then yes! I would be concerned if a child from another district was sneaking in to go to a specific school or play sports. The kids we are talking about have no control over the testing performance at their zoned school and are allowed to transfer. You live in Kingwood but it is not Kingwood ISD.