A lot of Christians say the Bible is "the word of God". But isn't really the Bible stories from people who wrote what God supposedly told them? So for the sake of argument, let's say those people are telling the truth and not insane or making it up to legitimize their influence. Shouldn't the Bible continue to be written with more stories of God telling people stuff? Why did it automatically stop and put a fork in what God is saying? Shouldn't people like David Koresh, Andrea Yates or Joel Osteen have a chapter in there? 

How could you possible top Revelation? Have more talking beasts with eye covered legs. 

Shouldn't the Bible continue to be written with more stories of God telling people stuff?

God answers your question in Revelation...

"If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book" 

Which is why the Catholics are still plagued today. 

"If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book"?

So does that mean, God stopped talking to people and we should all just refer to the Bible. Or does it mean God still talks to people, just don't write it down and spread what He told you? 

How could you possible top Revelation?

LOTR: Return of the King. That last battle was awesome. 

So does that mean, God stopped talking to people and we should all just refer to the Bible. Or does it mean God still talks to people, just don't write it down and spread what He told you??

you are wrong on both counts... 

Great questions. 

Which is why the Catholics are still plagued today

Yea - WW - you are right, more so that Catholics are not sola scriptura, than we are plagued. Well maybe with a light plague of Catholic quilt.

Dr A. Catholics do not believe God retired after revelations. We believe He is still quite active in the world. 

Yea - WW - you are right, more so that Catholics are not sola scriptura, than we are plagued. Well maybe with a light plague of Catholic quilt.

Plagued with guilt amiright...ha

Catholics and Protestants have a different number of religious books in their bibles. One of them is wrong. And wrong according to Revelation (which both have) means plague. 

Catholics and Protestants have a different number of religious books in their bibles.

Correct

One of them is wrong

I don't think different is always wrong, sometimes it is just different.

I just can't picture a just and loving God calling either one of out because of that difference in our Bibles. So I will chose not to do the same. 

JohnLynch ---

you are wrong on both counts...?


Why not go ahead and explain?
Do more than just tell people they're wrong. SHOW us WHY we are wrong. (or why you are right.) 

I don't think different is always wrong, sometimes it is just different.

in this case...WRONG...

I just can't picture a just and loving God calling either one of out because of that difference in our Bibles.

someone is JUST because they stand for and support the truth and what is right...so it does matter to a JUST God... 

Why not go ahead and explain?

LOL...i've done that many times...doesn't make a difference to the ones who don't want to know... 

Why not go ahead and explain?

LOL...i've done that many times...doesn't make a difference to the ones who don't want to know...

i.e. I can't explain it, therefore...GOD! 

i.e. I can't explain it, therefore...GOD!

nope...wong again wong...i HAVE explained it...some are to dense to know it... 

I just can't picture a just and loving God calling either one of out because of that difference in our Bibles.

someone is JUST because they stand for and support the truth and what is right...so it does matter to a JUST God...

There is real very well documented history on the Deuterocanonical books. St. Jerome struggled with their inclusion and wrote quite a lot about it. I think, left to himself, he would not have considered them canonical, but there was a legitimate argument and support that they were profitable, and were included. And there they stayed until challenged by Martin Luther. IMO they were maintained as canonical at Trent, mostly because they were challenged by Luther.

So the point is, can you really consider any issue that has been so difficult for men of good will to determine to be a basis of justification ?? I can't. And if not a matter of justification - what does it really matter if they are in my Bible and not in yours. 

nope...wong again wong...i HAVE explained it...some are to dense to know it...

Nope, stench, you didn't and can't. 

lol...we all know where the stench comes from...and it isn't me... 

JohnLynch ---

LOL...i've done that many times...doesn't make a difference to the ones who don't want to know...?


No you haven't ... the only answer you ever give is: "...because it says so in the Bible... and the Bible is true because it says so in the Bible..."

You would do better to explain how these things are true using something other than a variation of "because I say so." 

what does it really matter if they are in my Bible and not in yours.

because they are anti-God...isn't that a good enough reason?...

it is very sad that many people care more about being a catholic, or a baptist, or a methodist, etc...than they care about being a Christian...

No you haven't

yep....i have...pay attention in the first place...or go back and read again...
a Christian... 

The Bible = Ridiculous fairy tales 

The Bible = Ridiculous fairy tales

Dvas - believe, or don't believe I really don't care. But what is ridiculous is that statement. If is, or is not the word of God may be a matter of faith. If it is or is not one of the most important collection of literature ever produced is barely debatable. 

Culturally important Literature ... certainly ... but that doesn't change the "fairy tale" nature of the stories. 

The bible is without a doubt the single most important piece of literature in the western world (and the shaping thereof), possibly the entire world.

Two questions:

1)How and why do so many people who believe its the word of god not understand it or where it comes from?

2)How long will it hold that mantle? 

Some people, especially children are easily shaped and brainwashed.

I believe the Bible is an outstanding guide to live a life with morals. The stories within, however are mostly not (f)actual history. The stories are just great metaphors, IMO. 

DVaz---That's the point of sunday school and summer church camp (at least until high school when it becomes hook up camp)..indoctrinate the childrens!!! 

Commoner, I promise I'm not being facetious, but my SIX year old studied the Council of Nicea this year as a part of his Ancient to Middle Ages History Unit.

You have not uncovered some great secret of which Christians are unaware. 

Well, WIP, at least now your 6 year old is more knowledgeable about bible history than Lynch!!! 

And also be careful of those who claim to speak for God. Always ask, "What do they hope to gain?"

God's real prophets were HATED and usually martyred or persecuted during their time.

Today's "prophets" get people's money and a whole bunch of gullible women to sleep with them. 

Well, WIP, at least now your 6 year old is more knowledgeable about bible history than Lynch!!!

It appears that Lynch is fully aware of the Council of Nicea. However, he is maintaining that God has orchestrated the writing, gathering, and assembling of His Word through His Holy Spirit via the men. 

i believe the Bible is an outstanding guide to live a life with morals. The stories within, however are mostly not (f)actual history. The stories are just great metaphors, IMO.

It is a very small minority of Christians in the world that consider the bible to be literally true. Most believe the bible to true or inerrant in its purpose. 

We are just blessed to live in a part of the world with a rather large concentration of them, and spend too much time on a message board with one very vocal and active one who believe the Bible to be literally true.

I am not questioning their beliefs, if it works for them, and they have come to that belief with a pure heart, God bless. I do wish, they were a little better at extending that courtesy to the rest of us. 

The amazing thing about the word of God is that it speaks to the receptive individual in the way that person understands, with the exact message they need at that time. 

The amazing thing about the word of God is that it speaks to the receptive individual in the way that person understands, with the exact message they need at that time.

Sounds like the same thing as a horoscope. Or even a fortune cookie. 

The amazing thing about the word of God is that it speaks to the receptive individual in the way that person understands, with the exact message they need at that time.

Sounds like the same thing as a horoscope. Or even a fortune cookie.






Except that fortune cookies don't have millions of people who tell you their lives were changed by them. 

Except that fortune cookies don't have millions of people who tell you their lives were changed by them.?

The book doesn't change their lives. They do. Every religion has the exact same claims. Heck, Zig Ziglar, Tony Robbins...same thing. Are they gods? Is theirs the word of god?

The message that Jesus preached can definitely change a lives. Then again, Can the Koran. So can the Tao. So does the Vedas. I'd imagine fortune cookies could have the same power if the words were moving enough.

But I know, the bible is the ONE true divine work and Christianity is the ONE true religion. 

The stories within, however are mostly not (f)actual history.

and you would be wrong...

It is a very small minority of Christians in the world that consider the bible to be literally true. Most believe the bible to true or inerrant in its purpose.

that is absolute nonsense...nothing can be true or inerrant in its purpose without being literally true...

and spend too much time on a message board with one very vocal and active one who believe the Bible to be literally true.

this one very local one is absolutely correct...you are absolutely wrong...and to not believe the Bible is not the fruit of a Christian...

But I know, the bible is the ONE true divine work and Christianity is the ONE true religion.

nope...Christianity isn't a religion...it is the one true way to God however... 

that is absolute nonsense...nothing can be true or inerrant in its purpose without being literally true...


How about Luke 15 11-32, I think there are many very true things in those verses, yet, they never literally happened. 

How about Luke 15 11-32, I think there are many very true things in those verses, yet, they never literally happened.

how do you know that they never literally happened?...

it is obvious that you have the wrong understanding of what literal means in the Scriptures...

did Jesus literally give us those verses?...do you believe that Jesus lied about what He said?