Then home school them and keep them locked up at home so they don't infect the rest of us!

Toddler dies as measles outbreak hits German capital

Berlin (AFP) - A toddler has died of measles in the German capital, health authorities said Monday, amid the country's worst outbreak in years and an intense debate about steps to boost vaccinations. 

Joe,

If you are so sure that immunizations work and feel you are protected from disease, why are you so concerned if the next person has them or not? After all, you have protected yourself. Right?
If we should allow you or worse the government demand we inject substances into our bodies to give you a false sense of security we would be in a frightening place in America.
You do not truly believe they work anyway or you would not be afraid of being infected. No one needs to be " locked up". You sound really scared. Have some tea and calm down. 

Someone (Lionpride) doesn't understand the purpose behind vaccinations. 

Educate me then. Are you not protected? Why so scared. Back yourself up. 

Remember... It's not just about those who choose to vaccinate and those who choose not to vaccinate. While there is a risk of severe illness and death, generally speaking a healthy person will survive the measles with little or no repercussions.
But... not everyone is healthy.
It's also about those who would choose to, but can't... such as the child battling cancer, who just barely survived only to now be more at risk because of somebody else's choice.
It's also about the parents of a child still too young to be be vaccinated, who is now scared to bring their child in for a scheduled checkup because there happens to be a measles outbreak.
In this case... your choices can literally kill those around you who are too weak to fight off the infections.
Unfortunately, cancer runs in my family. I've lost people close to me from simple colds after chemo and radiation therapy. Obviously, colds aren't preventable, but losing anyone to something that was preventable is just so tragic. It's something we should all consider when make choices that could also affect those outside of our sphere of influence.
I personally want people to be able to make their own choices, but they should understand the complete impact of that choice and be willing to stand accountable to whatever you decide.
There is a human cost for your right to choose. 

We vaccinate. We weighed the pros and cons with info we had available and thought that vaccination won out. However, I CANNOT support the government forcing people to inject something into their children. That is the parents' choice, and the govt should not usurp that authority. 

Ask older people who were around when vaccines weren't available. They will tell you that they are safer than the diseases. 

Ask older people who were around when vaccines weren't available

Yup! Go ahead and ask me! I would much rather have had the vaccines if they were available in my youth. 

I have to admit. I have thoroughly enjoyed not having Polio. 

If you are so sure that immunizations work and feel you are protected from disease, why are you so concerned if the next person has them or not? After all, you have protected yourself. Right?


Because the very young don't have them and they can die due to your ignorance. I, personally, have an immunity. I care about more than myself.

Your ignorance is not bliss when it kills and maims others. End of subject. 

Measles Continue to Spread, Reaching 154 Cases in 17 States 

Wow. Immunize people. 

It's ironic that while the typically democrat hippies and health nuts create a fake scare about vaccinations, it's now attributed to conservatives. 

I don't care, liberal or Conservative, that's a choice for each family.

Besides, there really could be vaccines developed that you would have an issue with. Don't give up your freedom over this. 

The only people I know that choose not to vaccinate, are staunch conservatives.

Every liberal I know, had their kids vaccinated. I also know a lot of conservatives who've had their kids vaccinated.

It's not a political issue, but, that's been my experience. 

I watched a 7 week old infant die of whooping cough several years ago when I worked pediatrics. She was too young to be vaccinated. Everyone that had come into contact with her was tested and they never found out how she got it. This was back before it was a huge problem. No one suspected it. She was not diagnosed until after she had been airlifted to a larger hospital. Her respirations were 100 a minute. We all had to take Zithromax for prevention. It was a horrible experience watching helplessly while she struggled. It will forever affect me. Please vaccinate your children. 

Slider152, well said. 

If a parent chooses not to vaccinate, that is their right - however they then should assume all financial responsibility of exercising that right including hard done to others when an unvaccinated child spreads disease.

With rights comes responsibilities. We tend to forget that. 

What is the argument for not vaccinating your children?

Are you scared they might become autistic? That theory has been debunked many times over. And the doctor who came up with it has since lost his medical license.

Is it just to thumb your nose at the government? Seems like you're cutting off your nose to spite your face. 

Not vaccinating your healthy child is a risk to younger and fragile children as well as the portion of the population who cannot be immunized due to health concerns.

Everyone already knows this.

The mentality of those who refuse to vaccinate is, "I don't care if your cancer ridden grandmother or two week old preemie newborn DIE as long as I don't have to expose my child to something Google says will make him autistic or stutter or cough or sneeze because I'm too stupid to listen to people with actual medical knowledge".

Immunizing children is a basic parental care responsibility. Not doing so should result in them being placed in foster care. Either that or banish yourself from society where your bad decision won't be a public health risk. 

Holy cow! You want to take kids away over not vaccinating? Heck to the no!

This is ridiculous guys. I know that we all like to tell other people how to parent, but God did not give us that authority! We parent our own kids. And the government doesn't have that authority either.

Not vaccinating is NOT abuse. We have agreed, as a society, that kids can be taken away in cases of extreme abuse, but now, people are just flippantly wanting parents to lose their children over not agreeing with medical doctors, who often do not even agree with each other!

We cannot allow this precedent to happen. We cannot be ok with this. I'm very sorry that some people will not vaccinate, we believe it is the right thing as well. But that does NOT give anyone the authority to take their children! 

Sure, why not give the Feds even more over reach? Now eat your soylent green and be quiet. 

If you are receiving money from the government - you should follow the government's rules.

When you accept their money, you are giving up your freedoms.

Medicaid is going that way right now. If parents don't get their kids vaccinated they lose their coverage. 

If a parent chooses not to vaccinate, that is their right - however they then should assume all financial responsibility of exercising that right including hard done to others when an unvaccinated child spreads disease.

They should also accept that they may not be able to come to public schools if there is an outbreak of an disease or illness covered by vaccines depending on the reason they are not vaccinated.

Right now the waiver allows kids to enroll without required vaccines so the "required" part has become a joke. 

I hear what you are saying Perfection, but I fear that with the govt gobbling up so many things that used to be private (where is this healthcare crap going?), then we will ALL, against our will, be on some type of government dole in the future. I do NOT like the idea of giving up my rights because they are paying for something I don't want them to pay anyway.

And me point out again, that the govt doesn't actually pay for anything. They just take from Peter to pay Paul. Sometimes, against the wishes of both Peter and Paul. 

I hear what you are saying Perfection, but I fear that with the govt gobbling up so many things that used to be private (where is this healthcare crap going?), then we will ALL, against our will, be on some type of government dole in the future. I do NOT like the idea of giving up my rights because they are paying for something I don't want them to pay anyway.

And me point out again, that the govt doesn't actually pay for anything. They just take from Peter to pay Paul. Sometimes, against the wishes of both Peter and Paul.

But what does any of this have to do with making sure your children are vaccinated?

Do you really want to risk your children's health and well-being just to protest against the government? 

I believe that I have repeatedly stated that we did vaccinate. So I'm not sure WHERE you are getting that this is some sort of government protest. . .that is just out of left field.

However, I do NOT want the government to be able to take ANY of our kids because we may disagree on something they promote. You don't see that as scary? I sure do. On this, I agree with what the prevailing wisdom is and chose vaccination. But there may come a day when I don't, for good reason. And I want the freedom to choose. 

If a parent chooses not to vaccinate, that is their right -



There are alot of things in this country that should be rights but are not so face reality. Uncle Sam is in your face, in your bed, and up your arse. (Not you personally LMFAO but all of us.) Welcome to Life in 2015. Big Brothe is guiding the way. Sh!te the traffic cameras even watch our daily routines. Cover up them license plates. 

Colorado
*legalized marijuana
* want to outlaw smoking cigarettes outside
*Has the highest number of unvaccinated children in the nation.

This just baffles me!