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Democrats responsible for Sutherland church massacre

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idontplaynice --- 14 days ago -

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/democrats-killed-bill-stopped-texas-church-killer-buying-gun-video/
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In an interview on Fox News about the awful Texas shooting that took 26 lives, Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas) said that he had introduced legislation with Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Ia.) in 2013 that could have prevented the horror, but Democrats filibustered it.

"We could have prevented this," Cruz said, "in 2013 in the wake of Sandy Hook, I joined with Chuck Grassley, we introduced legislation that was called the Grassley-Cruz legislation. And it was aggressive legislation targeting felons and violent criminals to stop them from getting guns."

"The Obama administration didn?t prosecute those cases," he continued. "In 2010, 40,000 felons and fugitives lied and illegally tried to purchase guns - they prosecuted only 44 of them."

"Gun control for felons and fugitives yes, for individual citizens," Cruz concluded, "for law-abiding citizens, no, and the Democrats filibustered the legislation that would have resulted in this shooter being in federal prison instead of murdering those innocents in that Texas church."  


Democrats seems to prefer protecting criminals' rights over those of law-abiding citizens'. 

jackass --- 14 days ago -

Texans are responsible for Sutherland church massacre... 

idontplaynice --- 14 days ago -

Texans are responsible for Sutherland church massacre...

I thought they were busy playing football? 

jackass --- 14 days ago -

Wrong Texans. 

idontplaynice --- 14 days ago -

Wrong Texans.


How do you figure that residents of the state of Texas were responsible? 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 14 days ago -

The shooter bought his guns legally. The Air Force didn't turn his info over to the data base- OOPS.. 

jackass --- 14 days ago -

So it?s the air force?s fault too...let?s arbitrarily blame everyone. 

idontplaynice --- 14 days ago -

So it?s the air force?s fault too...let?s arbitrarily blame everyone.



So what would you rather blame? 

jackass --- 14 days ago -

Lack of education and the violent culture. But those are scary and complicated topics so let?s just play the blame game and do nothing but send thoughts. 

JBlake --- 14 days ago -

Lack of education and the violent culture. But those are scary and complicated topics so let?s just play the blame game and do nothing but send thoughts.

pretty sure everyone knows that weapons can hurt people...they know cars can too. Where do you think the "violent culture" comes from? All of these shootings have been deranged losers and almost all of them either got their guns illegally or would not have been prevented from getting them unless there was an outright weapons ban...even then, they'd get them, make them or use another tool.

What are you doing to solve the problem? Since you are so opposed to thoughts and prayers and since you're convinced nobody is doing anything, please tell us what you are doing?

This guy was stopped by a legal, sane, law-abiding gun owner. Too bad there wasn't someone in the church prepared for something like this. The thought that gun control would lead to anything positive is insane. 

WatchOut --- 14 days ago -

Where's the usual moderator and why hasn't she iced the OP and deleted this thread which is clearly trolling? Right-i-o, this supports her agenda so it gets to stay.

Let's face it, there's more to the story than we see here. I'd love to know what was attached to that bill that caused the dems to deny it.


Democrats seems to prefer protecting criminals' rights over those of law-abiding citizens'.?


TROLL ON BOARD^^ 

WatchOut --- 14 days ago -

Here's the real TRUTH of what happened to Cruz's POS bill and also the COMPLETE STORY:


Senate bill to extend background checks killed by filibuster
By Brad Plumer April 17, 2013
So much for significant new gun-control legislation. The bipartisan Manchin-Toomey bill to extend background checks to gun shows and Internet sales has died in the Senate. It got 54 votes, but that wasn't enough to overcome what was essentially a Republican filibuster.


The Manchin-Toomey compromise bill was a scaled-back version of earlier proposals to extend background checks to unregulated private gun sales. Many gun experts argued that the slimmed-down proposal would have only marginal effects on gun violence. But even that small step couldn't get through the Senate.

Republicans who voted for the bill included Pat Toomey (Pa.), Mark Kirk (Ill.), and Susan Collins (Maine) and John McCain (Ariz).


Democrats who voted against the bill included Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.), Max Baucus (Mont.), Mark Begich (Alaska) and Mark Pryor (Ark.). Technically, Harry Reid voted "no," but that's a procedural move so that he has the right to bring the bill up again.

My colleague Sean Sullivan has a nice explainer on why the bill needed 60 votes to pass rather than a simple majority. But as political scientist Jonathan Bernstein explains here, this was essentially a GOP-led filibuster: "The correct thing to say about this is that the amendment was defeated by filibuster."

Meanwhile, an alternative Republican gun bill by Chuck Grassley and Ted Cruz that would have provided funding for gun-crime prosecutions, school safety, and mental health ? but placed no new restrictions on gun ownership ? was killed by a Democratic-led filibuster. That amendment received 52 votes, not enough to move forward.

A number of other amendments also failed to earn the 60 votes necessary to pass: Those included an amendment to stiffen penalties for ?straw purchasers,? 58 to 42; a GOP-backed amendment to permit ?national reciprocity? of concealed carry permits, 57 to 43; and a GOP plan to extend gun rights for veterans, including those deemed unable to manage their financial affairs, 56-44.

A full list of the gun-related amendments being voted on in the Senate can be found here. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 14 days ago -

Watchie, this may surprise you, but the mods have a life, and paying jobs- and another unbelievable fact- there are more than one mod, and ALL of them ice trolls! LOL 

WatchOut --- 14 days ago -

Democrats seems to prefer protecting criminals' rights over those of law-abiding citizens'.?



Republicans seem to prefer arming criminals to the hilt so they can gun down law-abiding citizens. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 14 days ago -

WatchOut --- 1 min ago - quote - hide comments
Democrats seems to prefer protecting criminals' rights over those of law-abiding citizens'.?



Republicans seem to prefer arming criminals to the hilt so they can gun down law-abiding citizens. TROLL ON BOARD^^



LMAO!! 

JBlake --- 14 days ago -

TROLL ON BOARD^^

is "troll" the new "racist"? 

Prolix Raconteur --- 14 days ago -

So a democrat bill got filibustered by the republicans and a republican bill got filibustered by the democrats. Business as usual in DC, but fail to see why the Cruz bill was a "POS" and the other was not, other than the usual partisanship. 

jackass --- 14 days ago -

pretty sure everyone knows that weapons can hurt people...they know cars can too

Ok...not sure what you?re getting at with that. I wasn?t suggesting we educate people that weapons are dangerous. But you knew that i hope.

All of these shootings have been deranged losers and almost all of them either got their guns illegally or would not have been prevented from getting them unless there was an outright weapons ban...even then, they'd get them, make them or use another tool.


I never suggested banning guns if thats where you?re going with that nonsense.


Personally I?ve educated my family on gun safety, conflict resolution and anger management. I?ve voted for pro education candidates and worked with my kids schools to raise awareness about mental illness.

What did I say that made you think I?m convinced no one is doing anything? You seem hostile to any solutions not just stronger gun laws. Which I oppose. So not totally sure why you?re bein so hostile. 

jackass --- 14 days ago -

is "troll" the new "racist"?


You can?t call racists racist anymore, they find it offensive. 

JBlake --- 14 days ago -

Personally I?ve educated my family on gun safety, conflict resolution and anger management. I?ve voted for pro education candidates and worked with my kids schools to raise awareness about mental illness.

most of us do the same yet the problem continues. What are your suggestions for making things better?

and it's your problem with those that offer thoughts and prayers...the multiple comments...as if that is all anyone is doing. I don't see the harm in sending thoughts and prayers and most people that do so also do the things you are doing. 

idontplaynice --- 14 days ago -

I never suggested banning guns if thats where you?re going with that nonsense.


Personally I?ve educated my family on gun safety, conflict resolution and anger management. I?ve voted for pro education candidates and worked with my kids schools to raise awareness about mental illness.

What did I say that made you think I?m convinced no one is doing anything? You seem hostile to any solutions not just stronger gun laws. Which I oppose. So not totally sure why you?re bein so hostile.





You sure talk in circles, with an emphasis on "I" this, and "I" that. Only a troll does that. And a passive-aggressive one at that.

If you have a point to make, why don't you make it and move on? You know, talk straight. Your method is the least effective way to convince anyone anything, but then again, that isn't your goal is it? 

the Markster --- 14 days ago -

this may surprise you, but the mods have a life
I've heard that before, and it may be true for some. But not all. The bobettes mods are waiting for the comment that is the slightest pettyest non reasons to assert their might over the same certain people.
The bobettes. BMF😎 

jackass --- 14 days ago -

If you have a point to make, why don't you make it and move on? You know, talk straight. Your method is the least effective way to convince anyone anything, but then again, that isn't your goal is it?


You?re sure an angry little guy. You ask me what I?m doing then bash me for answering you.

Get a grip, put down your guns and call your mother. Hopefully she can talk you out of the tower... 

DVaz --- 14 days ago -

He was a lunatic on SSRI's just like most mass shooters were on those meds. Something isn't right with those and it needs to be seriously addressed. 

idontplaynice --- 14 days ago -

You?re sure an angry little guy. You ask me what I?m doing then bash me for answering you.

Get a grip, put down your guns and call your mother. Hopefully she can talk you out of the tower...




My post's not nearly as angry as yours. Did I call you "little guy" and tell you to call your mother? Look who is really the one bashing? How ironic.

I'm gad you don't like guns, as I don't think you're the right kind of person to be entrusted with one. You come across as high-strung and emotional. 

Zapper009 --- 13 days ago -

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