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Lake Houston Gates, Silt, and Flooding

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SoupIsGoodFood 2
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Let Logic Prevail 4
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Let Logic Prevail --- 292 days ago -

I have heard they are wanting to put in additional gates. One would think they'd be speaking of flood gates since flooding is the issue but they are talking about adding additional tainter gates.

Research what these gates are. They are insignificant, small gates.

Kingwood needs flood gates on Lake Houston not more tainter gates. This is as ignorant as one of the local newspapers printing that officials have no idea where all the sand and silt is originating. 

SoupIsGoodFood --- 292 days ago -

LOL............. I remember a "discussion" I had on here years ago about these tainter gates.

Yes......... they will be adding true flood gates. 

jackass --- 292 days ago -

I?d still invest in some good hip boots... 

Let Logic Prevail --- 292 days ago -

Yes......... they will be adding true flood gates.

That is incorrect. Seems you need to attend next week's meeting:

There's an upcoming meeting on July 10th (next Tuesday), from 6-8pm, at Kingwood Park HS to discuss the current and future state of the San Jacinto Watershed. It centers around the #pleaforddg, DDG being the Dredging, Detention, and Gating being proposed for local waterways. A JPG detailing that initiative is attached here and there's a link to the Lake Houston Chamber Recover Lake Houston page as well, providing more details.

Go to this website and download the referenced DDG sheet. You will see it clearly references "tainter" gates. 

Let Logic Prevail --- 292 days ago -

San Jacinto Watershed Community Meeting
July 10 | 6:00 PM - 8:00 PM | Kingwood Park H.S.

#Plea for DDG Lake Houston

Talk to a Harris County Flood Control District Representative and tell them you want DDG for the San Jacinto Watershed:

Dredging to restore the San Jacinto River, Lake Houston and surrounding drainage ditches and channels to the capacity of the 1980's level of flood risk. This will eliminate backups, increase the river gradient, and protect homes, businesses and infrastructure from water breaching the banks. We need dredging in:
- West Fork & East Fork of the San Jacinto River
- Lake Houston
- Drainage ditches and channels around Lake Houston including the East Fork, West Fork, Atascocita, Summerwood, Kingwood, Huffman
- We further request HCFCD to assume responsibility for internal ditches around the Lake Houston Area

DETENTION/SEDIMENT BASINS west and north of Highway 59. Detention will divert water from flowing downstream into the San Jacinto River and Lake Houston. The detention sites should also serve as sediment retention basins which will trap sediment from clogging and filling up our waterways. We need Detention/Sediment
Basins for the:
- Little Cypress Watershed
- Spring Creek Watershed
- Cypress Creek Watershed
- Lake Creek Watershed in Montgomery Co

10 Tainter GATES on Lake Houston Dam. These gates allow for a pre-release strategy to be put in place for our watershed. Gates will discharge water faster to reduce flood levels and eliminate a bottleneck on the river

Address: ________________________________________________________________
Email Address:____________________________________________________________
More Info: 

Let Logic Prevail --- 292 days ago -

Looks like I believed SoupIsGoodFood's previous postings here that I found when I Googled for Tainter Gates. It seems his information was not correct on this either.

On Wikipedia they are called floodgates:
"The Tainter gate is a type of radial arm floodgate used in dams and canal locks to control water flow. It is named for Wisconsin structural engineer Jeremiah Burnham Tainter."

I think the issue is that the current tainter gates that we have are quite small in size. If they are large enough, I'm good with it.

Tainter has to do with the type of gate it is (opening mechanism) not the size. Size has been our issue in regards to flooding. 

Butterbean --- 292 days ago -

Please include your suggestion as to how to pay for all that. 

LiveFreeOrDie --- 290 days ago -

Please include your suggestion as to how to pay for all that.

From all the extra money they have been collecting for flood control improvement on every water bill in the city of Houston for the last 7 years!! Remember when all our water bills went up under the last mayor!?!? 

Butterbean --- 290 days ago -

Just cause your place flooded doesn't mean the funds were not properly used. Perhaps you can specify where the excess is.

I don't want to pay for a project that has little or no merit long term. Another deluge like the last will bring about the same results. 

LiveFreeOrDie --- 290 days ago -

Another deluge like the last will bring about the same results.

Agreed.. Only a ditch the size of the grand canyon MAY be able to handle another event like that. However we are still having lots of street level flooding that the Fee was supposed to resolve.

BTW, The Texas supreme court ruled that the Drainage fee was implemented illegally. The City has so far ignored the ruling and continued to collect the fee. ($120 mil. per year x 7 years $840 mil.) Wonder where the money has gone??

Luckily I did not flood. 

Butterbean --- 290 days ago -

I did not flood either. I spent many days helping friends that did. I am not unsympathetic to their plight.

Houston streets are planned storm water runoff points. Street flooding will occur. It's the rate of clearing those flooded areas that is important.

I don't know if it's part of the COH flood plan or not, but cleaning my local storm drains has helped in my neighborhood. Phooey to those who continue to rake their leaves and trash into the drains.

Dredging Lake Houston is, IMO, a poorly thought out, very expensive, feel good project. The river silts. It always has and always will. The river sand folks know that all too well.

It's money down the drain. 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 290 days ago -

And I just heard yesterday someone is getting 5B to study this whole issue...I hope it helps!
Bc the way we continue to clear land for building and retail makes me think we are just treading water, pardon the pun. 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 290 days ago -

Friday, July 06, 2018 07:48PM
HOUSTON, Texas (KTRK) -- It's something we're all used to seeing by now.

Some heavy rain and the bayous can be over the banks in no time.

Just this week, we got a reminder that ended this year's Freedom Over Texas celebration.

The question we keep hearing from residents like Felix Sisneros is "what's been done to prevent another Harvey?"

"I think more should be done," Sisneros said.

This week, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers announced nearly $5 billion in projects and studies to help the flooding problem in the Houston area and the coast.

Sharon Tirpak with the Corps says the money will help fund many projects that are already studied and approved, like improvements to the Addicks and Barker Reservoirs, Buffalo, Brays and several other bayous.

Nearly $16 million will go toward studies that search for future projects.

Residents are understandably frustrated, but the Corps of Engineers says studies are the first step in making the action happen.

Follow Steven Romo on Facebook and Twitter. 

SoupIsGoodFood --- 289 days ago -


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