The news today is that Obama says we should reach out and embrace Islam. Is that the same message Chamberlin said before WWII?





 

Judging 2 Billion Muslims by the acts of a few thousand sound right to you? Not even 1/32 of 1% of Muslims are terrorists. 

You have to be an educated person to understand that............. 

Judging 2 Billion Muslims by the acts of a few thousand sound right to you?

Works for the liberals when judging Christians. 

Since the terrorists are following the teachings of their religion, you don't know how many Muslims actually approve of what they are doing, and may some day decide to actually practice their religion. To say it's only a few thousand is very naive.

You have to be an educated person to understand that. 

Works for the liberals when judging Christians.

We can generalize by saying Christians generally don't approve of gay marriage or that Christians lean towards the Republican party because the numbers show it to be true. KKK members are mostly Christian. Does that make Christians KKK members? No. What example do you have of "liberals" falsely accusing Christians of something. 

What example do you have of "liberals" falsely accusing Christians of something.

You read KU? 

Judging 2 Billion Muslims by the acts of a few thousand sound right to you? Not even 1/32 of 1% of Muslims are terrorists.?

Excellent point, unfortunately the data paints a grimmer picture. I watched news last night about this issue. I don't remember the exact data....just the conclusion.

Around 4%-5% of the world Muslims are in support of the beheadings (It's a cultural throwback to the Crusades).

That 4%-5% is larger than the population of the United States. Trying to say we do not have a problem with Islam is pretty naive. 

You have to be an educated person to understand that.............?

Have ever notice how people with very little formal education accuse others of being ignorant? 

Around 4%-5% of the world Muslims are in support of the beheadings

How many Americans support the death penalty? And how many of those Americans support taking up AK-47s and start a religious cleansing? Apples/Oranges 

You read KU?

bahaha. Busted. 

You read KU?

bahaha. Busted.?

I thought so too but honestly can't think of an outrageous claim like the one on this thread. Please post one if you can think of an example. 

How many Americans support the death penalty? And how many of those Americans support taking up AK-47s and start a religious cleansing? Apples/Oranges?

I have to admit, that is a good point. But think about what has happened in the past month:

1) Muslims murdering cartoonists in Paris.

2) Muslims murdering Jews in Parish.

3) Muslims murdering Jews in Copenhagen.

4) Muslims burning to death a Jordanian pilot.

5) Muslims killing (though we are not sure how she died) a female volunteer worker.

6) Muslims murdering Egyptians in the Sinai.

8) Muslims beheading 21 Christians in Libya.

9) Muslims burning to death 40 (or so) Iraqi's.

The only possible example of Christian terrorism: Three Muslims were murdered by an atheist. Ironically, the atheist defended Muslims against Christians trying to stop the building of mosques on his Facebook page.

The data makes your argument very weak. Christians are not killing Muslims......as are Muslims killing Christians, Jews, and anyone not agreeing with them. 

Yep, they're scrambling doc. haha 

I don't think anyone is suggesting that all Muslims are terrorists. That would be absurd, and, if it were true, we would be dead right now, and the whole conversation would be moot.

So continuing to "inform" us of something that no one has stated is a straw man. Nobody has ever suggested that.

What we are pointing out is that the extremists are plentiful, and that they are basing their ideology on Islam. They have an actual basis for violent jihad in their Koran, in their Hadith, and in their history. It is naive to ignore this.

And it is also naive to ignore that many peaceful Muslims do wish for sharia to be the law of the land. Sharia is incompatible with the West. They cannot exist together, so we have to be sober about the real threat to our way of life--and it isn't xenophobia or any other ridiculous nonsense. It's reality. We have two extremely different worldviews--the West, and Sharia, and they will be fighting for dominance. 

Most of the terrorist activity in the U.S. in recent years has come not from Muslims, but from radical Christianists, white supremacists and far-right militia groups. 

How many Americans support the death penalty?

That question has no merit since it's an apples to oranges comparison - a ridiculous comparison. 

These Muslim extremists are definitely organized and have been very successful at recruiting and executing their ideas. When Obama says, "Peaceful nature of Islam", he's referring to the 1.99999999 Billion Muslims. You know, the majority. 

Most of the terrorist activity in the U.S. in recent years has come not from Muslims, but from radical Christianists, white supremacists and far-right militia groups.

LOL, another false copy and paste statement from tommyboy. 

Alday, first of all, that is very suspect. I'd have to see your basis for that. But again, no one has argued that other people cannot do evil. We all have that capability. All of us.

But that does nothing to negate the threat of jihad. We see it happening in the Middle East. We are giving refuge to tons of Syrians right now. I understand that we WANT to provide refuge to good people. Nobody would deny that. But with that, we have to be aware that we are, most likely, importing the ideology of Sharia, and possibly some extremists in that number. Be aware. 

Most of the terrorist activity in the U.S. in recent years has come not from Muslims, but from radical Christianists, white supremacists and far-right militia groups.

Can you give us an example?

When was the last time a White Supremacist beheaded anyone?

When was the last time a Baptist bomber blew up a school bus? 

And we're dealing with true believers here. They think they are doing service to God when they kill us. That's just not a normal enemy. It's more frightening than what we have seen before. 

Alday, first of all, that is very suspect. I'd have to see your basis for that.

You would have to speak to Alex Henderson for that information since he's the one that actually composed that statement. 

And it is also naive to ignore that many peaceful Muslims do wish for sharia to be the law of the land. Sharia is incompatible with the West. They cannot exist together, so we have to be sober about the real threat to our way of life--and it isn't xenophobia or any other ridiculous nonsense. It's reality. We have two extremely different worldviews--the West, and Sharia, and they will be fighting for dominance.?

Good analysis. One of my best friends was Muslim. I do not have a problem with his religion. But, these guys doing the beheadings are doing it in the name of Islam.

It is ignorant for us to ignore their twisted ideology and what they call themselves.

It is also ignorant for Obama spending all his time telling us something we already know.....There are good Muslims in the world. 

And Aborto, we are in more agreement than you think. Of course, the majority of Muslims are peaceful. And in the US, that is even more true. They are just normal families trying to make a normal life just like us. But they have adopted a Western standard of ethics and values. That, is, of course, compatible.

We are concerned with those who want Sharia. Those who are following a literal interpretation of Islam, and are following the life of Muhammed, who converted by the sword.

That is the original Islam. Like it or not. And that is the one that is scary. 

That is the original Islam. Like it or not. And that is the one that is scary.

True 

Can you give us an example?

When was the last time a White Supremacist beheaded anyone?

When was the last time a Baptist bomber blew up a school bus?

.... and silence. 

These Muslim extremists are definitely organized and have been very successful at recruiting and executing their ideas. When Obama says, "Peaceful nature of Islam", he's referring to the 1.99999999 Billion Muslims. You know, the majority.


Isn't it odd that the Christian extremists right here on KU can't grasp that? Snowprincess already explained why:

You have to be an educated person to understand that.............  

What do you Christian extemists propose we do to battle the small percentage of radical Muslims? 

When Obama says, "Peaceful nature of Islam", he's referring to the 1.99999999 Billion Muslims. You know, the majority.

No one has a problem with them. It's the other segment. The segment he fails to identify and talk about. 

No one has a problem with them. It's the other segment. The segment he fails to identify and talk about.


HUH? Why do you think he had that speech? Why do you think he is wanting to go to war? 

Wow. We take the time to explain the straw man, and they continue, completely unfazed. It's like a zombie movie. They just continue in mindless attacks.

There's no way to fix that. That is willing ignorance on parade.

I think I'll just talk to Aborto. He is reasonable, at least. I think that people like Aborto have enough things in common, even with conservatives like me, that we might even agree on courses of action and such.

But the zombies? I guess we just allow them to eat their own. What else to do? 

Isn't it odd that the Christian extremists right here on KU can't grasp that?

As I previously stated, "Since the terrorists are following the teachings of their religion, you don't know how many Muslims actually approve of what they are doing, and may some day decide to actually practice their religion. To say it's only a few thousand is very naive."

And I already explained that "You have to be an educated person to understand that."

BTW, there is no such thing as a Christian extremist, but you have to be an educated person to understand that. 

But the zombies? I guess we just allow them to eat their own. What else to do??

I'm beginning to come to that conclusion. 

What do you Christian extemists propose we do to battle the small percentage of radical Muslims?

That's a wonderful question that has been brushed aside in favor of chest thumping. 

That's a wonderful question that has been brushed aside in favor of chest thumping

No, it's a ridiculous question since there is no such thing as a Christian extremist. 

Mindless zombie attacks. One called in reinforcements. 

No, it's a ridiculous question since there is no such thing as a Christian extremist.

OK Jake. What actions would you personally take to thwart the obvious ill will (terrorism) of the small percentage of radical Muslims.