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The Truth About Men

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CavemanBarney 1
voice of reason 1
AwesomeTattooedDragon 2
I_won't_tell 4
SagaciousSighFiGurl 15
Miss Understanding 2
sdanielmcev 6
Emperor of Kingwood 12
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SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 106 days ago -

This looks like a great book about why men do what they do in terms of power in society and how they view sex and women.

We are all a product of what we feed our hearts and minds and spirits...master lust and feed love...

The Truth 

sdanielmcev --- 106 days ago -

Nah. I'll be a man the old fashioned way. Bang as many broads as I can 

I_won't_tell --- 106 days ago -

How can men be at fault?

It is instinct and hormones!

How is it our fault that some women are hott and dress so SEXY!?

 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 106 days ago -

Ooooh I detect some defensive sensitivity! 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 105 days ago -

It reads like an over simplified description of male behavior and what it is to be a man in our society. It is much more complex than portrayed in the article.

We don't get up every morning and lust after everything we see. The vast majority of us get up every day and do what is necessary to take care of our families. Do we look at women that we think are attractive? Of course we do. Do we look at your body parts? yes, of course. If you didn't look attractive to us we would have no desire to procreate.

Do we seek some level of power? Of course we do. The reason is that power usually equates to greater resources that we spend on our families. Power and resources are how we are judged as men by women and society in general.

Women will often say they want a "real relationship". Whos definition of a real relationship?

We don't get up every morning and plan how to subjugate a woman. 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 105 days ago -

Most men don't "plan" to. When Matt Lauer had that device put in that locks his door from his desk, what was that for? Was it planned??

But I think it's time we go into it realizing the dynamic of power is what it is. Power is corrupting to anyone and everyone unless you hold yourself to some standard you are committed to. Lust is normal but it needs to be put within boundaries like everything else. Lust AND power has proven to be an issue we can't ignore. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 105 days ago -

There's a difference between lust and acting on lust.

Lust AND power has proven to be an issue we can't ignore.

There are vast numbers of men that lust and also have some level of power and their power is not misused. This is the norm, not the ones you hear about on the news. 

KwMillennial --- 105 days ago -

How can men be at fault?

It is instinct and hormones!

How is it our fault that some women are hott and dress so SEXY!?


I’m not very good at knowing if people are joking or not, but since I know you mostly post proTrump pictures instead of words and discussion, I think you might be joking.

But if you are serious, you are missing the point. Instinct and hormones are not relevant to this topic. It’s about the behavior and impulse control.

I also think the author of this article is missing the point. The issue is not just a “Truth About Men” issue. That’s a clickbait way to define the issue and the problem. That makes the author seem unserious about the most important issue. The bigger issue is about how traditional gender roles are changing. Some people resist it. Some people push for it. But like it or not male and female gender roles are changing. People have to respect each other. People who disrespect and violate other people can and should lose their jobs and careers over it. 

sdanielmcev --- 105 days ago -

Strange thing about this is, women usually go for the the guys that will never respect them.. 

voice of reason --- 105 days ago -

This looks like a great book about why men do what they do in terms of power in society and how they view sex and women.



did the author do this analysis in relation to trump? we all know how he views power in society, sex and women. power his numero uno and women inferior sex objects well beneath him.

what a horrible example he sets for the children of today. :( 

Prolix Raconteur --- 105 days ago -

Thread derailment award of the day goes to....... 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 105 days ago -

Sdanielmcev 4 hours ago - edit - quote - put user in the ice box - put user in the ice box and remove recent comments - hide comments
Strange thing about this is, women usually go for the the guys that will never respect them.. "



Funny, that's what the poster Loki use to say. He was always whining about unrequited love, women and writing sad poetry. He had a TON of screen names and obliterated and kept changing constantly....funny that.



Saying this issue of sexual harassment, assaulting women, drugging them and/or groping them and pressuring them in the workplace is about respect is like saying nuclear war is about having a good breakfast before you push the button.

Respect is for normal healthy relationships. This is about abuse of POWER. 

I_won't_tell --- 105 days ago -

Ladies

Why do you wear high heels, padded/push up bras/makeup/short skirts/tight clothes? 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 105 days ago -

Yeah that's right, we asked for it. #Cavemenamongus 

I_won't_tell --- 105 days ago -

Some do. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 104 days ago -

The real problem which happens much more often is men having to defend themselves from false allegations in the work place. 

sdanielmcev --- 104 days ago -

Funny, that's what the poster Loki use to say. He was always whining about unrequited love, women and writing sad poetry. He had a TON of screen names and obliterated and kept changing constantly....funny that.
Who's Loki? Your paranoia is getting the Better of you. And, you, like most liberals do, avoided my point. Humans, like most animals, learn by example. Aspiring to some utopian ideal is nice, but mother nature is a powerful force, and you'll lose any time you go up against her. 

KwMillennial --- 104 days ago -

Strange thing about this is, women usually go for the the guys that will never respect them..

Women in their 20s seem more interested in guys who respect them than you would think, if all you were going by was how they are portrayed on tv. Tv portrayals are misleading. I think they do that to get the male viewer to pull for certain characters that are not getting attention from the female characters.

Back in high school, I was interested in girls out of my league. I had similar thoughts as you. But in college? Things flipped. Girls are definitely interested in guys who respect them. If you want to see for yourself what I’m talking about, go to any college hangout and people watch. 

KwMillennial --- 104 days ago -


Why do you wear high heels, padded/push up bras/makeup/short skirts/tight clothes? 


Irrelevant. Relax and enjoy it. Just be happy they are trying. 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 104 days ago -

Emperor of Kingwood --- 3 hours ago - edit - quote - put user in the ice box - put user in the ice box and remove recent comments - hide comments
The real problem which happens much more often is men having to defend themselves from false allegations in the work place. "


That's highly unlikely since this about POWER, that's a fact that can't be denied. And since women rarely have that kind of power, it's not likely. That's not to say false allegations don't happen, of course they do. But look at all the men who have been caught and admitted it? They were ALL taking advantage of their POWER.. And you know what they say about cockroaches...when you see one, there's another 100 you don't see. 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 104 days ago -

201 cases recently where they were fired or stepped down.

How many were "false allegations?"

201 Recent cases of sexual harassment 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 104 days ago -

That's highly unlikely since this about POWER, that's a fact that can't be denied. And since women rarely have that kind of power, it's not likely. That's not to say false allegations don't happen, of course they do. But look at all the men who have been caught and admitted it?

Your kidding right? Women use the false allegations in an attempt to level the power playing field. Are you telling me that what I have witnessed and been party to literally every year for 35 years isn't happening? You see several very high profile things where men have abused power and you extrapolate that to every man in a power over people position. What I'm telling you is that the extrapolation isn't true. What is true is exactly what I have witnessed and experienced for 35 years. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 104 days ago -

Its NOT about power its about abuse of power. 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 104 days ago -

I've personally endured harassment, starting at the teen age level. Are you saying what I've experienced isn't real?

I never once said every man, or every powerfull man. I said false allegations happen. But those situations pale in comparison to the abuse of power women are likely to experience simply bc it's men who usually HAVE the power.I have in fact, said before that if it were women always in power they would do it too. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 104 days ago -

I've personally endured harassment, starting at the teen age level. Are you saying what I've experienced isn't real?

No I didn't say that anywhere in what I wrote.

But those situations pale in comparison to the abuse of power women are likely to experience simply bc it's men who usually HAVE the power

How do you know that? My experience with this is exactly the opposite. I've seem more false allegations that the real thing. 

sdanielmcev --- 104 days ago -

Women lust after men and power same as any one. It'd be better to see this book co-written from the same perspective by a woman. About women. 

DVaz --- 104 days ago -

SighFi has turned SJW! 

fuzz81 --- 104 days ago -

 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 103 days ago -

sdanielmcev --- 19 hours ago - edit - quote - put user in the ice box - put user in the ice box and remove recent comments - hide comments
Women lust after men and power same as any one. It'd be better to see this book co-written from the same perspective by a woman. About women.



Wanting power or seeking it, or even finding it attractive is not the same as HAVING it. Your comment makes no sense since women don't have the power to be able to abuse others with it. Again, it's time to accept the truth that some men abuse their power in the workplace. Denying it ain't gonna help anything and you men who try to say that women are the problem are lying to yourself. And that never works, the universe sees to that. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 103 days ago -

Again, it's time to accept the truth that some men abuse their power in the workplace

There's no doubt about that. Seen it all too often. It's a case of bad leadership. They abuse others in many ways such as; not empowering people, creating a hostile work environment; being generally unfair and capricious and not least of all vengeful. True leaders are vastly different. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 103 days ago -

DVaz --- 14 hours ago - quote - hide comments
SighFi has turned SJW!


Single Jewish woman?? Who knew? 

CavemanBarney --- 103 days ago -

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod)

Yeah that's right, we asked for it. #Cavemenamongus


Present... 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 103 days ago -

Caveman Barney!! You're my fave caveman....ill let you hit me over the head. LOL 

KwMillennial --- 103 days ago -

My experience with this is exactly the opposite. I've seem more false allegations that the real thing

What field are you in that led to you being exposed to all these false allegations? If you don’t want to answer that, do you think false allegations are unique to your field, or equally common among all occupations? 

KwMillennial --- 103 days ago -

EoK,

She’s just not seeing that women who make these false allegations are also abusing their power. She seems too focused on making it about men. Even chose an article that also tries to make it a gender issue. Both genders are using the power they have to exploit circumstances for personal gain. That is very obvious to most reasonable thinking people.

Are you surprised that she is handicapped by her cognitive distortions that cause her view abuse of power in the obviously messed up way she does? You’re not going to get far in this debate. She has her own demons that keep her comfortable within her own cognitive distortions. We see obvious paranoia. She rejects reason and logic because it makes her uncomfortable to face her own demons. She sees ghosts and she likes it that way. What we see is that constant distrust and suspiciousness of others.

You might already know this from what you learned in your occupation, but people not close to her are not going to change her. She has to want to change, and it often takes close friends or family to make that happen. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 103 days ago -

Here ya go KWM..you obviously didnt read the article. i guess truth bothers you. opt for blindess, and your comfort.

201 men fired or quit is sexual harassment cases 

KwMillennial --- 103 days ago -

Yes. I read that. As stated earlier, I believe most of those men are guilty of what was alleged and deserved to lose their jobs and careers. In what way do you think posting it helps me understand something that you think I don’t understand?

What truth do you think I denied or overlooked? 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 103 days ago -

The TOPIC is the book, and what Franklin Thinks is an issue men have with lust. The sexual harassment came in bc obviously there is a real problem WITH LUST and powerful people. I never said there weren’t false allegations made. But let’s cut the crap and be honest. There isn’t nearly the magnitude of that vs. all the harassment, abuse, sex trafficking, rape and assaults that are made against women.

Wake up. Wise up. Denying it on the internet doesn’t make it false. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 102 days ago -

What field are you in that led to you being exposed to all these false allegations?

Petrochemical senior management until last year. 

KwMillennial --- 102 days ago -

Male dominated? 

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