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a3564881uu --- 11 years ago -

I'm shocked at the details and evidence they have on his case. His poor innocent wife. 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 11 years ago -

What details? Anything new from what was known before? I have t kept up. 

a3564881uu --- 11 years ago -

It's public record on Harris County and is very detailed, quoting emails between him and the student. 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 11 years ago -

You're kidding? They posted emails publically? Wowza


And uh oh. 

a3564881uu --- 11 years ago -

They posted emails publically? Wowza

Yes, it's public record. His statement is also on there. 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 11 years ago -

Where does one find that? I guess I should get his side of the story. :D 

a3564881uu --- 11 years ago -

Go to images tab and you can see the statement. Also can see that his wife bonded him out.

http://www.hcdistrictclerk.com/edocs/public/CaseDetails.aspx?Get=jsaipPSUXxGs10F/8IH56lPGFDCx/5FrF1w680DEBlbxfuePbwYyzTy+MW2WQrF0hO2k30GWcFE3lCOOymoGf6m5hIfsNgzjYEVjOzvW1r0= 

a4610983uu --- 11 years ago -

He is clearly gulty. By his own words. 

JustPeachy27 --- 11 years ago -

Coach Harlot. 

a3564881uu --- 11 years ago -

He is clearly gulty. By his own words.

Exactly. I wasn't going to believe anything until there was proof. Now there is. Sad. 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 11 years ago -

To see the images you have to fill out a form with your personal info and register, so I passed. Odd that all the other info/links were accessible? 

Lord Cheezus DeSufferbus --- 11 years ago -

To see the images you have to fill out a form with your personal info and register, so I passed. Odd that all the other info/links were accessible??

None of the other tabs contained the complainant's full name. 

a3564881uu --- 11 years ago -

None of the other tabs contained the complainant's full name.

yes, under images. her name is there. 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 11 years ago -

Since it's public anyway, care to post it? 

Fiona --- 11 years ago -

Yes please post not really into registering to see but nosy enough to read it. 

a3564881uu --- 11 years ago -

Since it's public anyway, care to post it?

The name of the girl? removed name 

a3564881uu --- 11 years ago -

I can't copy & paste the statement etc because it's in a PDF. 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 11 years ago -

Lol@Fiona, well said.



How strange and traumatic it must be for him and his family to see your husbands/family members name on documents like that. Horrible.

I'm pretty sure it wasn't worth it. He seems to say it wasn't all about the sex, that they were emotionally involved. Of all of this, that's so hard for me to understand...what a married 35 YO man with kids of his own actually sees in a 16/17 YO teen? 

a3564881uu --- 11 years ago -

How strange and traumatic it must be for him and his family to see your husbands/family members name on documents like that. Horrible.

Exactly what my thoughts were. To be his wife and to see it all in black & white. 

Fiona --- 11 years ago -

It would be devastating I am sure. I can not wrap my head around adults desire to be with children in that way. How could you ever look at your husband again knowing he had been with a child. gag 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 11 years ago -

It would be devastating I am sure. I can not wrap my head around adults desire to be with children in that way. How could you ever look at your husband again knowing he had been with a child. gag




Well, she isn't a child as in he's a pedophile or anything. And there was no forcing anyone against their will. We have to remember that, even tho it's all very inappropriate and very damaging to their marriage. An affair of this nature has got to be horrible for his wife. Not to mention the destruction of their personal credibility and professional credibility as well.

Also remember older men with teens is a common fantasy among men. Most just don't usually act on it. But they do see it as "hot". 

SuperFantastic --- 11 years ago -

^^^^that's hot 

SuperFantastic --- 11 years ago -

Rather 1 armed old ugly chick
Lol 

newstufftosay --- 11 years ago -

I'm not sure if I would have been able to bail his butt out of jail! How did that phone conversation go - "hey hon,can you bail me out of jail, I was arrested for . . ." 

Sharticus --- 11 years ago -

Next/Last Setting Date 2/14/2014

I don't think flowers from Kroger's is going to help much this year.

BTW, is inappropriate relations with a student an offense that makes a person register as a sex offender or is it a lesser offense? 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 11 years ago -

newstufftosay --- 35 min ago - quote - hide comments
I'm not sure if I would have been able to bail his butt out of jail! How did that phone conversation go - "hey hon,can you bail me out of jail, I was arrested for . . ."




I thought the same thing when I saw that date! Romantic stuff!


As far as if he is in danger of being a sex offender, I'm not sure. I read or thought she was 16 when the affair started? Not sure, and I guess what he's convicted of matters as far as the degree. 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 11 years ago -

According to what I have read, sex offender crimes all appear to have the stipulation that the victim is under 17 years old. Going to assume this girl was 17 since she was at the time it was exposed tho she may have been 16 when it started.

This is what it says about educators and students, and no mention of the age thing here:
"?21.12 ? Improper Relationship Between Educator and Student

An employee of a primary or secondary school commits an offense if he engages in sexual contact, sexual intercourse, or deviate sexual intercourse with a person enrolled at the school where the employee works who is not the employee=s spouse.

This is a felony of the second degree.
Second-degree felony: No more than 20 years or less than 2 years

If the conduct giving rise to a violation of this section would also be a violation of any other section, the actor may be prosecuted under either or both sections." 

Sharticus --- 11 years ago -

I guess this movie wouldn't be appropriate nowadays.

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MarthaStewart --- 11 years ago -

The girls mother should feel proud that they have such a close relationship that her daughter wants her to be involved in every aspect of her life. Even her sexual escapades. Its very touching.

Seems like this teacher did want to be a part of this girls life unlike the many other guys she been with before.

Very sad. 

a3564881uu --- 11 years ago -

sex offender crimes all appear to have the stipulation that the victim is under 17 years old

she was 17 

Its Mygirl01 --- 11 years ago -

According to what I have read, sex offender crimes all appear to have the stipulation that the victim is under 17 years old.

Are you saying a person would only become a registered sex offender if the victim of his/her crime is under 17?

If you go to the tdot website and search for sex offenders in zip code 77339, the first person on the list was convicted for sexual assault of a 27 year old female. So there is no age restrictions on sex offenders, the victim can be any age if the crime fits the criteria then the person has to register as a sex offender for as long as the court decides.


STATUTE TEXAS PENAL CODE 22.011 (A)(1)
VICTIM SEX FEMALE
VICTIM AGE 27
DISPOSITION DATE 06/04/1991
SENTENCE SENTENCED TO 20Y
STATUS DISCHARGED FROM TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS 

LizKeen --- 11 years ago -

How could you ever look at your husband again knowing he had been with a child. gag

I agree. Nasty, 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 11 years ago -

Sharticus, that looks like SiFi!!! Lol! I knew she was sketchy. 

LAXmom --- 11 years ago -

oh my gosh - his judge is the one I sat on a jury for last year. We asked the ADA when it was over, why go to trial when he had no defense. She said - because he knew the Judge would've given him a stiffer sentence than us (the jurors). She suppose to be really tough. 

GeorgiaPeach --- 11 years ago -

I see some time at Huntsville in his future, and deservedly so. 

Sharticus --- 11 years ago -

Hmm. Interesting read.

Texas Law Tough on Sexual Relationships between Teachers and Students

By: Gerri L. Elder
On September 1, 2003, a law took effect in Texas making it a felony offense for an educator to engage in a sexual relationship with a student who attends the school where they teach, regardless of the student?s age or gender. In Texas, the legal age of consent for sexual activity is 17, but under the law, teacher-student relationships in which the students were 17 and 18 years old have been criminalized.
A handful of teachers have been arrested and criminally prosecuted under the law; however the media didn?t appear to go crazy over the law until 25-year-old Amy McElhenney, a former Miss Texas contestant, was arrested on May 25, 2006. McElhenney was accused of having a sexual relationship with an 18-year-old male student at Hebron High School in Carrollton, Texas where she taught Spanish and coached cross-country track. Under the law, the improper relationship warranted a second-degree felony charge for McElhenney and she faced 20 years in prison if convicted.
The alleged relationship between McElhenney and the 18-year-old student was discovered after another student sent an anonymous note to the school?s resource officer indicating that the teacher?s cell phone contained some steamy messages between her and the student with whom she was ultimately accused of having a sexual relationship.
When questioned, McElhenney allowed the officer to view the messages on her phone but denied having a physical or sexual relationship with the student, according to the Dallas Morning News. However, when police questioned the student, he spilled the beans and told officers that he and McElhenney had a sexual relationship and had engaged in sexual relations at her apartment many times.
Texas State Representative Helen Giddings wrote the 2003 law under which McElhenney was charged. However, upon hearing of McElhenney?s arrest, Giddings became an unlikely supporter of the teacher and said that she had meant for the law to only apply to students 17-years-old and younger and felt uncomfortable categorizing sex between two consenting adults as a felony. When Gidding?s bill reached the floor of the Texas House of Representatives, other legislators added amendments making it illegal for educators to engage in sexual relationships with students of any age, making the law much more powerful and controversial.
In October 2006, a grand jury refused to indict McElhenney and the second-degree felony charge against her was dismissed.


More recently, the controversial Texas law has been making headlines again. This time it is a male teacher and coach who has been arrested for having an improper relationship with a 17-year-old student whom he plans to marry.
Randy Arias, like McElhenney, taught Spanish and coached track at a high school in Austin. He was arrested four days after applying for a marriage license to marry a teenage girl who is a student at the school where he taught. The 17-year-old student had her mother?s approval to marry Arias and the mother went with the couple to give legal consent for the marriage license.
Arias is charged with a second-degree felony under the same law that got McElhenney in hot water. If convicted of having an improper sexual relationship with the girl, who is now his fianc? he will face up to 20 years in prison. According to a report by the Associated Press, Arias has no prior criminal record.
Shannon Edmonds, the director of governmental relations for the Texas District and County Attorneys Association told the Associated Press that in most cases, if the teacher and student are either still in a relationship or have parted on good terms, even in cases that result in a conviction there is rarely prison time and instead the punishment of choice for the teachers is probation.
Edmonds says that the cases depend to a great degree on the age of the student. Cases in which the student is 17 or 18 years old at the time of the sexual relationship with the teacher have proven difficult to prosecute. In some cases, such as the case against McElhenney, the grand juries have cleared the teachers and therefore there have been no prosecutions.

While some say that age is an important factor in the prosecution of teachers who have sexual relationships with students, others may argue that gender may also play a role. It may be interesting to see if Arias is prosecuted and convicted, and if so, what sentence he receives compared to a female teacher charged under the same Texas law. Ironically, the law was written so that age and gender are to be disregarded; however, those are the issues that seem to be discussed the most by lawmakers, media and prosecutors.
 

JustPeachy27 --- 11 years ago -

Girl you can tell everybody
Yeah you can tell everybody
Go ahead and tell everybody
I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man
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I believe every lie that I ever told
Paid for every heart that I ever stole
I paid my cause and I didn't fold
Well it ain't that hard when you got soul (this is my world)
Somewhere I heard that life is a test
I been though the worst but still I give my best
God made my mold different from the rest
Then he broke that mold so I know I'm blessed (this is my world)

Stand up now and face the sun
Won't hide my tail or turn and run
It's time to do what must be done
Be a king when kingdom comes

Girl you can tell everybody
Yeah you can tell everybody
Go ahead and tell everybody
I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man

Girl you can tell everybody
Yeah you can tell everybody
Go ahead and tell everybody
I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man
Yes I am, yes I am, yes I am
I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man

I got all the answers to your questions
I'll be the teacher you could be the lesson
I'll be the preacher you be the confession
I'll be the quick relief to all your stressing (this is my world)
It's a thin line between love and hate
Is you really real or is you really fake
I'm a solider standing on my feet
No surrender and I won't retreat (this is my world)

Stand up now and face the sun
Won't hide my tail or turn and run
It's time to do what must be done
Be a king when kingdom comes

Girl you can tell everybody
Yeah you can tell everybody
Go ahead and tell everybody
I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man
Girl you can tell everybody
Yeah you can tell everybody
Go ahead and tell everybody
I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man
Yes I am, yes I am, yes I am
I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man

I'm the man
Go ahead and tell everybody what I'm saying y'all
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Girl you can tell everybody
Yeah you can tell everybody
Go ahead and tell everybody
I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man
Girl you can tell everybody
Yeah you can tell everybody
Go ahead and tell everybody
I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man
Girl you can tell everybody
Yeah you can tell everybody
Go ahead and tell everybody
I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man
Girl you can tell everybody
Yeah you can tell everybody
Go ahead and tell everybody
I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man
Yes I am, yes I am, yes I am
I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 11 years ago -

OK, you are so not Ashley- unless you had a brain transplant (and I say that with love) you aren't Ashley- 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 11 years ago -

Hmm. Interesting read.

Texas Law Tough on Sexual Relationships between Teachers and Students

By: Gerri L. Elder
On September 1, 2003, a law took effect in Texas making it a felony offense for an educator to engage in a sexual relationship with a student who attends the school where they teach, regardless of the student?s age or gender. In Texas, the legal age of consent for sexual activity is 17, but under the law, teacher-student relationships in which the students were 17 and 18 years old have been criminalized.
A handful of teachers have been arrested and criminally prosecuted under the law; however the media didn?t appear to go crazy over the law until 25-year-old Amy McElhenney, a former Miss Texas contestant, was arrested on May 25, 2006. McElhenney was accused of having a sexual relationship with an 18-year-old male student at Hebron High School in Carrollton, Texas where she taught Spanish and coached cross-country track. Under the law, the improper relationship warranted a second-degree felony charge for McElhenney and she faced 20 years in prison if convicted.
The alleged relationship between McElhenney and the 18-year-old student was discovered after another student sent an anonymous note to the school?s resource officer indicating that the teacher?s cell phone contained some steamy messages between her and the student with whom she was ultimately accused of having a sexual relationship.
When questioned, McElhenney allowed the officer to view the messages on her phone but denied having a physical or sexual relationship with the student, according to the Dallas Morning News. However, when police questioned the student, he spilled the beans and told officers that he and McElhenney had a sexual relationship and had engaged in sexual relations at her apartment many times.
Texas State Representative Helen Giddings wrote the 2003 law under which McElhenney was charged. However, upon hearing of McElhenney?s arrest, Giddings became an unlikely supporter of the teacher and said that she had meant for the law to only apply to students 17-years-old and younger and felt uncomfortable categorizing sex between two consenting adults as a felony. When Gidding?s bill reached the floor of the Texas House of Representatives, other legislators added amendments making it illegal for educators to engage in sexual relationships with students of any age, making the law much more powerful and controversial.
In October 2006, a grand jury refused to indict McElhenney and the second-degree felony charge against her was dismissed.


More recently, the controversial Texas law has been making headlines again. This time it is a male teacher and coach who has been arrested for having an improper relationship with a 17-year-old student whom he plans to marry.
Randy Arias, like McElhenney, taught Spanish and coached track at a high school in Austin. He was arrested four days after applying for a marriage license to marry a teenage girl who is a student at the school where he taught. The 17-year-old student had her mother?s approval to marry Arias and the mother went with the couple to give legal consent for the marriage license.
Arias is charged with a second-degree felony under the same law that got McElhenney in hot water. If convicted of having an improper sexual relationship with the girl, who is now his fianc? he will face up to 20 years in prison. According to a report by the Associated Press, Arias has no prior criminal record.
Shannon Edmonds, the director of governmental relations for the Texas District and County Attorneys Association told the Associated Press that in most cases, if the teacher and student are either still in a relationship or have parted on good terms, even in cases that result in a conviction there is rarely prison time and instead the punishment of choice for the teachers is probation.
Edmonds says that the cases depend to a great degree on the age of the student. Cases in which the student is 17 or 18 years old at the time of the sexual relationship with the teacher have proven difficult to prosecute. In some cases, such as the case against McElhenney, the grand juries have cleared the teachers and therefore there have been no prosecutions.
While some say that age is an important factor in the prosecution of teachers who have sexual relationships with students, others may argue that gender may also play a role. It may be interesting to see if Arias is prosecuted and convicted, and if so, what sentence he receives compared to a female teacher charged under the same Texas law. Ironically, the law was written so that age and gender are to be disregarded; however, those are the issues that seem to be discussed the most by lawmakers, media and prosecutors.







I think it's really odd that one law, that being 17 as the age of consent, can be over ruled by another law, teacher/student.

I honestly think that there isn't two issues here if 17 is the legal age of consent, there should be no sex offender charge. But, if this is in the school environment as this is, he should still be liable for that employment contract that he broke when he entered into this relationship that is specifically forbidden. he isn't a sex offender in the true sense of the word if she was 17. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 11 years ago -

I agree- 

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