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Dumbing-down of the party

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RiteWingKing --- 3 years ago -

When The Post?s front page declares: ?Republicans are on the verge of ceasing to function as a national party,? it?s time to ask: How did this come to pass?

You can choose from a litany of insurrections, government shutdowns and other self-inflicted wounds. But this year?s carnival-like GOP presidential primary makes one event, in retrospect, stand out as a crucial turning point on the road to upheaval: the 2008 embrace of then-Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be a heartbeat from the presidency.

Palin?s blatant lack of competence and preparedness needs no belaboring. What?s critical is that substantive, serious Republican leaders either wouldn?t or couldn?t declare, before or after the election: ?This is not what our party stands for. We can and must do better.?

By the campaign?s end, GOP operatives were shielding Palin from even the simplest questions. (She had flunked ?what newspapers do you read??). Barack Obama cruised to victory.

Palin became a Fox News fixture, reinforcing the newly formed tea party?s ?never compromise? demands. Bombast, not reason, reigned. Now the ?settle for flash? aura of Palin?s candidacy looks like a warning that the party was prizing glib, red-meat rhetoric over reasoned solutions.

Sadly, Palin owes her fame to 2008 presidential nominee John McCain, who is generally one of the party?s more thoughtful and substantive veterans. He has championed reforms to immigration and campaign finance. He denounced ?wacko birds? who stymie Congress to pursue hard-right agendas with no chance of passage. Whether McCain actively sought Palin in 2008 or passively yielded to aides? pressure, he set a new standard for GOP candidates who rely on lots of sizzle and little substance.

Once McCain put Palin on the ticket, Republican ?grown-ups,? who presumably knew better, had to bite their tongues. But after the election, when they were free to speak their minds, they either remained quiet or abetted the dumbing-down of the party. They stood by as Donald Trump and others noisily pushed claims that Obama was born in Kenya. And they gladly rode the tea party tiger to sweeping victories in 2010 and 2014.

Now that tiger is devouring the GOP establishment. Party elders had hoped new presidential debate rules would give them greater control. But they are watching helplessly as Trump leads the pack and House Republicans engage in fratricide.

It?s hard to feel much sympathy. The Republican establishment?s 2008 embrace of Palin set an irresponsibly low bar. Coincidence or not, a batch of nonsense-spewing, hard-right candidates quickly followed, often to disastrous effect.

In Delaware, the utterly unprepared Christine O?Donnell promised ?I?m not a witch,? but it didn?t save a Senate seat that popular, centrist Republican representative Mike Castle would have won, had he been the nominee.

In 2012, Missouri Republicans hoped to oust Sen. Claire McCaskill (D). Those hopes died when GOP nominee Todd Akin opined that ?the female body? could somehow prevent pregnancy from ?a legitimate rape.?

Party leaders aren?t responsible for every candidate?s gaffe. And Republican primary voters, not party honchos, choose nominees. But it?s easy to draw ideological lines from Palin to O?Donnell to Akin and so on to some of the far-from-mainstream presidential contenders of 2012 and today.

Then-Rep. Michele Bachmann (Minn.) was rising fast in Republican presidential polls in July 2011. Pizza company executive Herman Cain led the polls three months later. Does anyone now think Bachmann and Cain had the skills, experience and temperament to be president?

True, the party eventually settled on Mitt Romney. But for months, Americans wondered, ?Is this party serious?? Now the Republicans? leading presidential contenders are Trump - who vows to make Mexico pay for a ?great, great wall? on the U.S. side of the border - and Ben Carson, who questions evolution and asks why victims of the latest mass shooting didn?t ?attack the gunman.?

This isn?t to heap new scorn on Palin. But let?s not diminish the recklessness of those who championed her vice presidential candidacy. It was well known that McCain, 72 at the time of his nomination, had undergone surgery for skin cancer. It wasn?t preposterous to think Palin could become president.

Now Republicans ask Americans to give them full control of the government, adding the presidency to their House and Senate majorities. This comes as Trump and Carson consistently top the GOP polls. Republican leaders brought this on themselves. Trump calls Palin ?a special person? he?d like in his Cabinet. That seems only fair, because he?s thriving in the same cynical value system that puts opportunistic soundbites above seriousness, preparedness and intellectual heft.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/op-ed/article41451102.html#storylink=cpy 

RiteWingKing --- 3 years ago -

Thanks be to Palin. 

SoupIsGoodFood --- 3 years ago -

Thanks be to SNL.

"I can see Russia from my house!" 

Butterbean --- 3 years ago -

I've seen more than one commentary about Palin's influence on the demise of a rational GOP. 

RiteWingKing --- 3 years ago -

Trump...He needs Mommy and Daddy to help him with his campaign. LOL. That is just so funny. 

a889324uu --- 3 years ago -

Palin actually did make a comment about Alaska and Russia.

SNL just made it funny. 

RiteWingKing --- 3 years ago -

Carson...I was not always low energy. As a teenager I would attack people with hammers and try to stab them.

I got to watch The Daily Show. Maybe Colbert. This is such awesome material. 

Judas --- 3 years ago -

Same two words:

REPUBLICAN IMPLOSION

looking forward to tomorrow's debate explosion. Fun times. 

Judas --- 3 years ago -

As a teenager I would attack people with hammers and try to stab them.

Funny as all hell. Here's the full quote

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Judas --- 3 years ago -

Poor Jebbie. Perhaps Carson should stab him and end his misery with this election's lot of loonies. 

SoupIsGoodFood --- 3 years ago -

PALINMANIA!!!!! 

Hiro Protagonist --- 3 years ago -

Dan Quayle would've looked like Eisenhower next to this batch of idiots. 

fuzz81 --- 3 years ago -

Kaboom 

them --- 3 years ago -

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SoupIsGoodFood --- 3 years ago -

LOL...... I loved that game 

alldayredux --- 3 years ago -

I reject this thread. The GOP has been dumb a long time, it's not just recently. 

Markster --- 3 years ago -

I think it started with the war on drugs in the 70's with Nixon. "Tuff on crime" became the montra. Election after election was the same narrative of being tuffer. This pushed the party away from the center. Then the narrative of Gov waste under Regan and budgets were cut and kept being cut in the name of trickle down economics. Again pushing the party away from the middle. Then the GOP aligns itself with the Christian $ Coalition. Union Busting. Then the Tea Party and so on. Now the party is so far out of touch with mainstream Americans they are now irrelevant.

Growing up I thought Id be a republican. They were the ones that stood up to ending Vietnam. I thought at the time how great this party is to be ending wars. I liked it. The GOP today is NOT that party anymore. 

SleightOfHand --- 3 years ago -

"I think it started with the war on drugs in the 70's with Nixon. "Tuff on crime" became the montra. Election after election was the same narrative of being tuffer. This pushed the party away from the center. Then the narrative of Gov waste under Regan and budgets were cut and kept being cut in the name of trickle down economics. Again pushing the party away from the middle. Then the GOP aligns itself with the Christian $ Coalition. Union Busting. Then the Tea Party and so on. Now the party is so far out of touch with mainstream Americans they are now irrelevant.

Growing up I thought Id be a republican. They were the ones that stood up to ending Vietnam. I thought at the time how great this party is to be ending wars. I liked it. The GOP today is NOT that party anymore."


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Emperor of Kingwood --- 3 years ago -

Now the party is so far out of touch with mainstream Americans they are now irrelevant.


Its hard to be out of touch and win both houses of Congress isn't it? Makes you wonder who's out of touch. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 3 years ago -

Then the narrative of Gov waste under Regan and budgets were cut and kept being cut in the name of trickle down economics.

Just don't know where to start with this....SMH 

steinhoister2016 --- 3 years ago -

Its hard to be out of touch and win both houses of Congress isn't it


Now if they would actually DO something...but I guess a win is a win. Go team! 

Maxx01 --- 3 years ago -

Looks like Palin (and Romney) were right about Russia:
While Obama Golfs and plays with Clock Boy, Putin is building a military base in the artic:

"news broke last week that Putin and Russia have nearly completed construction on an absolutely massive Arctic military base located just 300 miles from the United States!

On the 80th parallel on an island called Alexandra Land which is located between the Barents and Kara seas, Russia has built a gigantic base they?re calling the ?Arctic Trefoil.? With 14,000 square meters of space it can house up to 150 soldiers for up to 18 months. That?s ?large. So much space will allow troops to move freely without stepping outside into weather which can reach deadly cold temperatures.

Last month I reported on Putin?s aggressive expansion of his fleet of Polar-class heavy ice-breaker ships in the Arctic region. Russia now has 41 such ships, 6 of them nuclear powered, compared to Obama?s America with our paltry fleet of two (one functional) and no money budgeted for the construction of any more. And now this.

The unveiling of this new Arctic base shows how much emphasis Russia is putting on gaining more control of the Arctic which contains valuable minerals, crude oil and a bevy of other precious natural resources. Putin reportedly deployed an air contingent to the region last November when only a small border outpost existed. That contingent got to work expanding runways to enable cargo planes to land and deliver building materials. And build they have." 

Markster --- 3 years ago -

Just don't know where to start with this....SMH


Just as long as you know where you can wind up...GOOFY 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 3 years ago -

Just as long as you know where you can wind up...GOOFY

Can we just accept that you are the poster boy of the dumb down party? 

SoupIsGoodFood --- 3 years ago -

Anyone else find it ironic that Mark shows up in a thread labeled "Dumbing-down of the party" 

Markster --- 3 years ago -

Can we just accept that

Define "WE"

The answer is NO. Im no republican. The Party of stupid is beneath me. But not you, right 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 3 years ago -

The Party of stupid is beneath me.

Is it really Mark? 

SoupIsGoodFood --- 3 years ago -

The Party of stupid is beneath me.


Says the guy who see ghosts in pics of himself, thought Wendy was going to win Texas, doesn't have a clue how Congress works, and doesn't have a clue how business works. 

Markster --- 3 years ago -

Says the guy who
That truly needs a friend. Adopt a puppy soup. I dont want to actually meet you. So I will tell you where I will take her. You can pick her up. 

SleightOfHand --- 3 years ago -

"Adopt a puppy soup. I dont want to actually meet you. So I will tell you where I will take her. You can pick her up. "

Mark, seriously, what type of drugs are you taking?! 

SoupIsGoodFood --- 3 years ago -

Wakey, bakey........... 

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