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AwesomeTattooedDragon 9
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Four Pinocchios 1
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Emperor of Kingwood 14
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SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 123 days ago -

You know how they say "familiarity breeds contempt" to try and help describe what happens to romantic relationships and why so many fail....well assuming that's true, why is the opposite true of friendships? It seems the more you know and learn and experience, the deeper the connection goes and the deeper the bond. Why doesn't that work for romance and dating?? 

witchywoman --- 123 days ago -

Because you don't live with them. 

witchywoman --- 123 days ago -

Not to mention the expectations are different. Life is all about managing one's expectations. 

TinktheSprite --- 123 days ago -

I find that men have a hard time being good friends with a woman. Gay men seem to have an easier time with it. I have had a few male friends that feel badly that I am married so they can't be my friend. I think it's the men. They think about relationships/friendships in one way only. 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 123 days ago -

That's true, Witchy. But managing expectations is part of friendships too...

Tink, that's true. Gay men make great friends in fact, maybe bc their female side connects with ours and with zero chance of romance, zero complications there.

Maybe this intersects with the whole can men and women be friends issue. But I was thinking same sex friendships when I brought up the question bc the men/women friendship thing is just weird.... 

urabunchcats --- 123 days ago -

Attractiveness is like a magnet
and instincts are STRONG.

Some are able to control their instincts - some aren't.
Think of a manually overriding an automated control system

To survive
We don't need each other
We want each other

Very possible that the human species would cease to exist -
men would just eliminate all the CRAZY females
if M/F sex wasn't pleasurable.
Just kidding.......Sort of ;-)

Males/Females are not Equal

Successful relationships require
Balance(overall-not on each item)
Respect
Tolerance
Acceptance
Desire
Adoration
and ......? 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 123 days ago -

Instinct, meaning what? That men are driven to plant their "seed" in every female to the point they just want every woman they see? And that women just want to have babies?

I don't believe that works for now. We have evolved past that. We don't live in caves. People chose when and where they want to reproduce. Women DO have a natural desire to have a family but they are waiting longer and longer bc they work to support themselves now. Women can actually work, get their own credit cards, vote and get educated. Some just don't even want kids. Men are still the protecting force in a family, and family is still the core of our society. But it's ALL about choice now, not our biological " urges" driving us around to reproduce.

Men think women are "crazy" bc they are so out of touch, distant, secretive and manipulative, you can't approach one except if you wanna drop your drawers bc that's what they understand. LOL 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 123 days ago -

That men are driven to plant their "seed" in every female to the point they just want every woman they see?

Good God no. That's a horrifying thought.

Men think women are "crazy" bc they are so out of touch, distant, secretive and manipulative, you can't approach one except if you wanna drop your drawers bc that's what they understand. LOL

You really have a low opinion of men. 

Sharticus --- 123 days ago -

I think it's the men. They think about relationships/friendships in one way only.

Of course you do. There lies the problem right there. 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 122 days ago -

The truth hurts eh Sharticus?

Why is it so hard to believe men often have the "maybe someday" vibe in their head when it comes to trying to be platonic with a female? You must not read much. 

Sharticus --- 122 days ago -

Why is it so hard to believe men often have the "maybe someday" vibe in their head when it comes to trying to be platonic with a female?

Because maybe someday we will find a woman that doesn't blame all of her issues on a man. 

Four Pinocchios --- 122 days ago -

witchywoman --- 13 hours ago - quote - hide comments

Because you don't live with them.


Bingo. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 122 days ago -

that definitely helps! 

JustWatching --- 122 days ago -

Because maybe someday we will find a woman that doesn't blame all of her issues on a man.

Just maybe..... 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 122 days ago -

Sharti, this topic is about relationships. Issues between men and women are likely to come up. And IN that context, both are vulnerable to each other, are acutely effected BY each other and we all are a slave to what we experience being the driving force behind attitude. To try and say women blame men for ALL their problems is the epitome of a sweeping generalization.

No, they don't. But when it comes to relational failures, it's pretty common for a couple to be hurt and then blame the one who hurt them. Men do want to hold all the power and that's their biggest downfall. Bc that's how their world works. That's how our society started out and how it is today. Women want to settle down, the two don't always jive. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 122 days ago -

Women want to settle down, the two don't always jive.

They could if both gave up the power grab and stopped thinking the other is stupid and worked together as a team and properly utilized the skills of each other. 

them --- 122 days ago -

Men think women are "crazy" bc they are so out of touch, distant, secretive and manipulative, you can't approach one except if you wanna drop your drawers bc that's what they understand. LOL




The men in your life think and act like this? That explains a lot. 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 122 days ago -

Not the ones in my life, but everywhere else. It's everywhere. Did you not hear the President say to just grab women by the 😺..?? And not see the guys with him agreed and cheered him on? You don't read about the violent sexual assault rates? The abuse in relationships? What's happening in colleges now? Men have lost their way in many areas of life. They are in charge tho so they look the other way.. 

mutton --- 122 days ago -

I think some people are dating the wrong ones. 

urabunchcats --- 122 days ago -

"Instinct, meaning what?"

Primal - like breathing.

With intellect and
acceptance of societal norms (acceptable behavior)
most?/some? can override/manage their instincts.

Don't kid yourselves - the instincts don't disappear.

Relationships are about a balance of EXPECTATIONS/NEEDS

Finding a partner that is accepting of your strange ____

is part of the balanced or unbalanced scale. 

Sharticus --- 122 days ago -

the epitome of a sweeping generalization.

.... Men do want to hold all the power and that's their biggest downfall. Bc that's how their world works. That's how our society started out and how it is today. Women want to settle down, the two don't always jive.
 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 121 days ago -

Men do want to hold all the power and that's their biggest downfall.

I disagree that men want to hold all the power. Women have now and have always had the ultimate power. When women wanted to give up their power and compete with men on their description of equal footing is when things went wrong. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 121 days ago -

Emp, the only way I can see women holding any power is perhaps behind the scenes, using sex as a control mechanism. But using that logic, we just go back to men thinking of women as sex objects. Women have been 2nd class citizens until the last 100 years, and couldn't even get their own credit until the 60's or later- 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 121 days ago -

Your talking about equal rights, not power. Power is NOT the ability to control or give orders power is influence ability. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 121 days ago -

we just go back to men thinking of women as sex objects.

Depends on how you define "sex object". Clearly the biological function of the female is procreation and perpetuation of the species. In that context sex is required to reproduce. In order to make sex an attractive alternative to no sex, males and females have to want it. Desire leads to wanting it which leads to sex which leads to baby which leads to perpetuation of the species. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 121 days ago -

Nobody is saying women are not as intelligent as men, deserve equal pay, equal rights so on and so forth, but that's not power.

However, there are physiological brain differences between men and women, the hippocampus (sp) for one. These differences along with hormonal influences can and do change the way the sexes see the same issue and problem solve. Women are much better at holistic problem solving while men are better at surgical fine detail problem solving. 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 121 days ago -

"I disagree that men want to hold the power"



I don't mean that as some dark plan they hatched to deceive. I simply meant that men ARE SO USE to being in authority in just about every place in life that they know nothing else. For years and centuries women stayed home, took care of that side of life...we were not challenging their authority bc men WERE their authority and women were in their places as homemakers. That dosent mean they were mistreated. It just means society saw men as the providers, the money earner, the protector. And in that came the hierarchy of relationships and family and the men were the bosses, the authority, if fo no other reason than women couldn't earn their own way, as they do now.

I honestly believe men do not want to appear to be emotionally attached to a woman bc they view it as weakness. And that's really what most females want, that attachment on an emotional level. Hence the games. Men have been bridled with the stigma of being "strong and in control" to the point they arent suppose to be emotional. Now, women crave to have that emotion. It's pretty easy to see what happened. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 121 days ago -

But, it's the people with the power who determine who gets equal pay, etc- Men have always determined the rules. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 121 days ago -

I honestly believe men do not want to appear to be emotionally attached to a woman bc they view it as weakness.

Why get emotionally attached, your just going to hurt us anyway. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 121 days ago -

Men have always determined the rules.

Except for those female monarchs throughout European history. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 121 days ago -

But, it's the people with the power who determine who gets equal pay, etc- Men have always determined the rules.

If that were truly the case then women wouldn't have the right to drive, vote, own property etc. It was men in government that passed that legislation. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 121 days ago -

OK, there's that- but there have always been men involved in those monarchies that have influenced policies- 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 121 days ago -

but there have always been men involved in those monarchies that have influenced policies-

As well as females who have influenced male monarchs. Any man who says his spouse isn't the most influential person in his life is a fool. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 121 days ago -

that hasn't been my experience- most of the men in my life have been strong willed and pretty much done what they wanted- unfortunately, that's led to some poor decisions- 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 121 days ago -

most of the men in my life are strong willed and pretty much done what they wanted-

You can be strong willed, Type A personality and not be a jerk.

Having said that, at the end of the day or pushed into the corner I will do what I want and I will win. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 121 days ago -

Men I have known don't have to be pushed in to a corner to do what they want- 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 121 days ago -

Then they are insensitive. 

Joe Blow --- 121 days ago -

Why is it so hard to believe men often have the "maybe someday" vibe in their head when it comes to trying to be platonic with a female? You must not read much.



That's quite the condenscension, implication and insult. Someone please ice this rude poster.

TIA and LMFAO 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 121 days ago -

If that were truly the case then women wouldn't have the right to drive, vote, own property etc. It was men in government that passed that legislation.


Those are laws that have only been in place in the last 100 years, or less- 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 121 days ago -

Joe Blow --- 6 min ago - quote - hide comments
Why is it so hard to believe men often have the "maybe someday" vibe in their head when it comes to trying to be platonic with a female? You must not read much.



That's quite the condenscension, implication and insult. Someone please ice this rude poster.

TIA and LMFAO


joey, that's the only way to get thru to a troll- 

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