Why do these women put up with it? It seems to me that some women are fine with it as long as they get something in return. I'm sure there are men who are put in the same situation. These creeps do it, because the keep getting away with it.
The ladies don't put up with it, some may but most don't. Look what happened with Cosby after all those women spoke. it's not that their putting up with it it's that it is very hard to prove in court. with Weinstin if they bucked him they would face consequences career wize.
Emperor of Kingwood --- 33 min ago - quote - hide comments These creeps do it, because the keep getting away with it.
Because there's a never ending supply of women willing to overlook it if not actually encourage it for money.?
Often, this is the case, until they find out it's over, or that they aren't ever going to be anything more than an extra, then they start the whining about being a victim, sometimes years and years later, just to try to appear to be relevant, again.
No, I don't think anyone should have to tolerate being abused or assaulted at work or anywhere for that matter but when it is consentual, until the man dumps the woman, then suddenly she is a victim? NOT!
"These creeps do it, because they keep getting away with it"
Are you blaming someone else for his behaviors? No, they do it bc it's WHO they are, and they'd be that way regardless. The way a woman reacts is just a part of a whole picture that starts from the behavior the man chooses. Women are usually in a position below the man and a subject of his in the workplace. Some may be trying to get something out of his advances. Maybe they need a job, or want to keep a job they have, so they play a long. Often it's just fear of losing something. There are gold diggers and they are out for themselves as well but those are consensual situations/relationships. Two wrongs don't make a right.
They should immediately expose him but we all know they are afraid of a his word against hers...the man is the powerful one the vast majority of the time. Bill Cosby, Bill O'Reilly, Roger Ailes and most all of these cases involve workplace underlings, and the boss has the power.
. Just because he's a democrat doesn't mean it's alright to act that that- when it was Trump grabbing p******, you were very outraged!
That's exactly the right answer. Well played. So. Wtih that out of the way. Why the outrage when we have a cooch grabbin president? If its good enough for our nations leader to be this way, whats the big deal for an executive to behave this way? Why, back in the day when men smoked in the work place, women could expect a daily spankin. am i right
I personally had several experiences where my boss used his position to try to force me to do some sexual favors for him- I was young and didn't want to lose my job, so I tried to play it off like he was kidding, all the while squirming in embarrassment- afterward, feeling shame at not kneeing him in the balls. It's not cute, guys- it's horrible. And it's ILLEGAL now.
afterward, feeling shame at not kneeing him in the balls.
That's called assault which would've landed you in jail.
And it's ILLEGAL now.
Its called sexual harassment. However, it only becomes harassment if its continued after the (woman in this case) says to stop or there was some sort of quid pro quo initiated by the (man in thus case) harasser. It is not illegal to make a sexual advance towards an employee or coworker.
I think, as always, when it comes up that someone is being sexually harassed, men get very defensive. They just do. I get it that it makes them look bad, and not all men do this or should be assumed that they do this. But, we always digress to a topic OTHER than sexual harassment. Yes, there's gold diggers. Yes, women can be playing with men and men can be playing games with women, BUT that is not harassment. Those are consensual relationship games. There is a lot of true harassment going on. We need to see it for what it is, a societal issue that seems to be blooming into clear view from the shadows. Men in powererful and/or influential positions seem to be the ones most likely to do this.
This is about Harvey Weinstein who has already admitted he did it AND paid his accusers in the past. So, what is there to be said about this? Honestly.
NyTimes: "An investigation by The New York Times found previously undisclosed allegations against Mr. Weinstein stretching over nearly three decades, documented through interviews with current and former employees and film industry workers, as well as legal records, emails and internal documents from the businesses he has run, Miramax and the Weinstein Company.
During that time, after being confronted with allegations including sexual harassment and unwanted physical contact, Mr. Weinstein has reached at least eight settlements with women, according to two company officials speaking on the condition of anonymity. Among the recipients, The Times found, were a young assistant in New York in 1990, an actress in 1997, an assistant in London in 1998, an Italian model in 2015 and Ms. O?Connor shortly after, according to records and those familiar with the agreements.
In a statement to The Times on Thursday afternoon, Mr. Weinstein said: ?I appreciate the way I?ve behaved with colleagues in the past has caused a lot of pain, and I sincerely apologize for it. Though I?m trying to do better, I know I have a long way to go.?
He added that he was working with therapists and planning to take a leave of absence to ?deal with this issue head on.?
I think, as always, when it comes up that someone is being sexually harassed, men get very defensive.
For good reason. Many, many men have done nothing wrong yet get hauled in front of HR because of some unfounded complaint from a woman looking for a pay day. That has the potential to ruin his career and more.
If you think that doesn't happen frequently, you haven't been in corporate America for the last 30 years.
Emp, that would be EVERYONE around a powerful person, people want jobs, men and women both. I know a little about Miramax. They are huge in Hollywood. To get a job with them or through them is the goal of everyone in that town. They produce big films and deal in huge money.
Getting jobs, climbing the ladder to advance yourself in one's career is what we all do. That's actually a legitimate way to get somewhere in life. That dosent mean you get to cross appropriate behavioral lines bc you know you hold the power.
Yes and I know women can lie and accuse someone. But you have to have proof right? And you said to make sexual advances isn't illegal so that won't do it. This guy has admitted it already and has 3 decades worth of issues. What should happen to him?
The New Yorker published a bombshell report on Harvey Weinstein on Tuesday, that alleges the embattled mogul raped three women, including actress Asia Argento.
The story, written by Ronan Farrow, claims Weinstein forcibly performed or received oral sex and also forced vaginal sex on women. It also contains on-the-record accounts from Mira Sorvino and Rosanna Arquette of encounters or business meetings with Weinstein that devolved into being propositioned sexually. The deeply reported story will likely exacerbate Weinstein?s problems at a time when reports of previous instances of harassment have left him ostracized in Hollywood and fighting for his professional life.
?I know he has crushed a lot of people before,? Argento said in the story. ?That?s why this story ? in my case, it?s twenty years old, some of them are older ? has never come out.?
Sorvino, who won an Oscar appearing in ?Mighty Aphrodite? for Miramax, Weinstein?s company, told Farrow that Weinstein ?harassed her? and pressured her to have a sexual relationship while she appeared in films for Miramax. At the Toronto Film Festival in 1995, she claims he propositioned her, and later showed up weeks later at her apartment after midnight.
In Toronto, Sorvino said Weinstein ?? started massaging my shoulders, which made me very uncomfortable, and then tried to get more physical, sort of chasing me around.? Arquette describes encountering a bathrobe-wearing Weinstein in his hotel room, where he tried to intimidate her into sexual contact. Both Sorvino and Arquette claim that after they rejected Weinstein?s advances, their careers suffered.
Through a spokeswoman, Weinstein denied that he had assaulted women.
?Any allegations of non-consensual sex are unequivocally denied by Mr. Weinstein,? the statement reads. ?Mr. Weinstein has further confirmed that there were never any acts of retaliation against any women for refusing his advances. Mr. Weinstein obviously can?t speak to anonymous allegations, but with respect to any women who have made allegations on the record, Mr. Weinstein believes that all of these relationships were consensual.?
In addition, the New Yorker piece also reports that four women experienced unwanted physical contact with Weinstein, that ?could be classified as an assault.? Weinstein also allegedly exposed himself to women or masturbated in their presence.
The story also includes audio of Weinstein admitting to groping Ambra Battilana Gutierrez, an Italian model who went public with her claims that the mogul had touched her breasts and put his hand up her skirt without her consent. Manhattan District Attorney, Cyrus Vance, Jr. ultimately decided not to press charges, which a police source tells was a mistake.
?We had the evidence,? the source told Farrow, with the author noting that if convicted of assault, Weinstein could have faced jail time.
The New Yorker story comes on the heels of a piece last week in the New York Times that detailed numerous instances of alleged harassment and financial settlements spanning multiple decades. Weinstein was fired from the Weinstein Company on Sunday. The indie studio behind ?The King?s Speech? and ?The Artist? will change its name as it tries to move forward from the scandal. That will be complicated by Farrow?s story, which describes a culture of intimidation at the company, in which employees were afraid to speak out about Weinstein?s mistreatment of women.
Farrow, an NBC correspondent, spent 10 months interviewing 13 women who reported they were harassed or assaulted by Weinstein between the 1990?s and now.
A spokesperson for the Weinstein Company declined to comment on the New Yorker piece.
For good reason. Many, many men have done nothing wrong yet get hauled in front of HR because of some unfounded complaint from a woman looking for a pay day. That has the potential to ruin his career and more.If you think that doesn't happen frequently, you haven't been in corporate America for the last 30 years.
YOU ARE A TOTAL PIG FOR DENFENDING THIS ABWHORANT BEHAVIOR.
YOU ARE A TOTAL PIG FOR DENFENDING THIS ABWHORANT BEHAVIOR.
Just wondering: Does the same apply to the peeps the voted for our cooch grabbin President? I'd figure it applies to turn a blind eye and vote to be represented by a cooch grabbin president. So. Does the same apply, or is there a double standard? Yes or no will do
YOU ARE A TOTAL PIG FOR DENFENDING THIS ABWHORANT BEHAVIOR.Just wondering:Does the same apply to the peeps the voted for our cooch grabbin President? I'd figure it applies to turn a blind eye and vote to be represented by a cooch grabbin president.So. Does the same apply, or is there a double standard?Yes or no will do