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Planned Parenthood Origins

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RayofHope --- 174 days ago -

We should think about Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger when we talk about tearing down statues. She believed that the United States should keep the doors of immigration closed to the entrance of many aliens. Sanger advocated a stern and rigid policy of forced sterilization for much of society.

It's hard to believe the government funds Planned Parenthood.

Archives of American Holocaust 

fuzz81 --- 174 days ago -

The trumpflakes must love her 

Butterbean --- 174 days ago -

Sounds like a person that would fit right in with the Trump group. Certainly warrants continued funding. 

DVaz --- 174 days ago -

It was for limiting the black population. Read up on Margaret Sanger if you haven't, or like liberals, just ignore it. 

fuzz81 --- 174 days ago -

Dvaz is a fan 

Butterbean --- 174 days ago -

Yup. Fits right in with the Trump group. 

OrdinaryGuy --- 174 days ago -

The trumpflakes must love her?

That really shows how little you know. Planned Parenthood likes abortions. Trump is trying to cut their funding. Like all liberals you wear blinders and only see what agrees with you. 

fuzz81 --- 173 days ago -

trumpflakes love oppressing children at the border though. Fair game for you once they?ve left the womb. 

RayofHope --- 173 days ago -

That really shows how little you know. Planned Parenthood likes abortions. Trump is trying to cut their funding.

So many people try and sidestep the Planned Parenthood issue and get them money. Planned Parenthood claims to be providing healthcare to women, but there are so many other deserving healthcare providers that are not in the abortion industry.

Slaughtering babies is the bread and butter of Planned Parenthood (The name is an oxymoron). 

Butterbean --- 173 days ago -

Margaret Sanger would fit right in with the Trump group. 

fuzz81 --- 173 days ago -

So many people try and sidestep the Planned Parenthood issue and get them money.

Trump fully funded them. 

jackass --- 173 days ago -

Trump fully funded them.


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roer de pot --- 173 days ago -

Your biased information is absolutely incorrect. DVaz, I'm looking at you.

Margaret Sanger was actually opposed to abortion; what she supported was birth control and the rights of women. She distributed flyers to women that said

Do not kill, do not take life, but prevent

She fully believed that access to birth control would eliminate the need for abortion.

In 1916, she opened a clinic that provided birth control, and was arrested for distributing birth control/contraception information.
She was a firm believer that when a woman had the option and ability to control her own body, they would be more productive members of society.
She had a birth control clinic in Harlem, staffed by all black doctors and had an African-American advisory board. This was backed by W.E.B. Du Bois, and Sanger rejected any form of bigotry from her staff, and/or refusal to work closely with other "races."

Her goal was to legalize contraception in the US.

Margaret Sanger supported eugenics for the poor and uneducated, and this included WHITE PEOPLE. At no time in her career did she advocate for the killing of unborn black babies. Stop repeating that ignorant, worn out debunked myth. 

fuzz81 --- 173 days ago -

Lol. Dvaz looking as brilliant as usual. 

DVaz --- 172 days ago -

Your biased information is absolutely incorrect. DVaz, I'm looking at you.

Margaret Sanger was actually opposed to abortion; what she supported was birth control and the rights of women. She distributed flyers to women that said


Learn to read. I never said abortion. Limiting the black population is what I said. 

DVaz --- 172 days ago -

Explain these if you will kswood & fuzzy -

1. "But for my view, I believe that there should be no more babies."
-- Interview with John Parsons, 1947

2. "The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
-- Woman and the New Race, Chapter 5, "The Wickedness of Creating Large Families." (1920) http://www.bartleby.com/1013/

3. "We don?t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population..."
-- Letter to Dr. Clarence J. Gamble, December 10, 1939, p. 2
https://libex.smith.edu/omeka/...

4. ?I accepted an invitation to talk to the women's branch of the Ku Klux Klan... I was escorted to the platform, was introduced, and began to speak...In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered.?
-- Margaret Sanger, An Autobiography, published in 1938, p. 366

5. ?I think the greatest sin in the world is bringing children into the world, that have disease from their parents, that have no chance in the world to be a human being practically... Delinquents, prisoners, all sorts of things just marked when they?re born. That to me is the greatest sin?that people can?can commit.?
-- Interview with journalist Mike Wallace, 1957

6. ?The most serious evil of our times is that of encouraging the bringing into the world of large families. The most immoral practice of the day is breeding too many children..."
-- Sanger, Margaret. Woman and the New Race (1920). Chapter 5: The Wickedness of Creating Large Families. http://www.bartleby.com/1013/5...

7. ?Eugenics without birth control seems to us a house builded [sic] upon the sands. It is at the mercy of the rising stream of the unfit.?
-- Sanger, Margaret. (1919) Birth Control and Racial Betterment. The Birth Control Review.

8. ?As an advocate of birth control, I wish to take advantage of the present opportunity to point out that the unbalance between the birth rate of the ?unfit? and the ?fit,? admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization, can never be rectified by the inauguration of a cradle competition between these two classes.?
-- Sanger, Margaret. (1921) The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda. The Birth Control Review, p. 5. http://birthcontrolreview.net/...

9. ?The most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective.?
-- Sanger, Margaret. (1921) The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda, Birth Control Review, p. 5
https://www.nyu.edu/projects/s...

10. "No more children should be born when the parents, though healthy themselves, find that their children are physically or mentally defective.?
-- Sanger, Margaret. (1918) When Should A Woman Avoid Having Children? Birth Control Review, Nov. 1918, 6-7, Margaret Sanger Microfilm, S70:807.
https://www.nyu.edu/projects/s...

11. ?A marriage license shall in itself give husband and wife only the right to a common household and not the right to parenthood."
-- Margaret Sanger, "America Needs a Code for Babies," Article 3, 27 Mar 1934.
https://www.nyu.edu/projects/s...

12. "No woman shall have the legal right to bear a child, and no man shall have the right to become a father, without a permit for parenthood."
-- Margaret Sanger, "America Needs a Code for Babies," Article 4, March 27, 1934.

13. "Permits for parenthood shall be issued upon application by city, county, or state authorities to married couples, providing they are financially able to support the expected child, have the qualifications needed for proper rearing of the child, have no transmissible diseases, and, on the woman?s part, no medical indication that maternity is likely to result in death or permanent injury to health."
-- Margaret Sanger, "America Needs a Code for Babies," Article 5, March 27, 1934.

14. "No permit for parenthood shall be valid for more than one birth..."
-- Margaret Sanger, "America Needs a Code for Babies," Article 6, March 27, 1934.

15. "Apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is tainted, or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring."
-- Sanger, Margaret. ?My Way to Peace,? Jan. 17, 1932. Margaret Sanger Papers, Library of Congress 130:198. https://www.nyu.edu/projects/s...

16. "... these two words [birth control] sum up our whole philosophy... It means the release and cultivation of the better elements in our society, and the gradual suppression, elimination and eventual extinction, of defective stocks -- those human weeds which threaten the blooming of the finest flowers of American civilization."
-- Margaret Sanger, "High Lights in the History of Birth Control," Oct 1923.
https://www.nyu.edu/projects/s...

17. "Organized charity itself is the symptom of a malignant social disease..."
-- Sanger, Margaret (1922). The Pivot of Civilization.

18. "My own position is that the Catholic doctrine is illogical, not in accord with science, and definitely against social welfare and race improvement."
-- Margaret Sanger, "The Pope's Position on Birth Control," Jan. 27, 1932.
https://www.nyu.edu/projects/s...

19. ?All of our problems are the result of overbreeding among the working class... Knowledge of birth control is essentially moral. Its general, though prudent, practice must lead to a higher individuality and ultimately to a cleaner race.?
-- Margaret Sanger, "Morality and Birth Control," Feb-Mar 1918.
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/sa...

20. ?Feeble-mindedness perpetuates itself from the ranks of those who are blandly indifferent to their racial responsibilities. And it is largely this type of humanity we are now drawing upon to populate our world for the generations to come. In this orgy of multiplying and replenishing the earth, this type is pari passu multiplying and perpetuating those direst evils in which we must, if civilization is to survive, extirpate by the very roots.?
-- Margaret Sanger, The Pivot of Civilization, 1922
https://www.scribd.com/documen...

21. ?Birth control itself, often denounced as a violation of natural law, is nothing more or less than the facilitation of the process of weeding out the unfit, of preventing the birth of defectives or of those who will become defectives? If we are to make racial progress, this development of womanhood must precede motherhood in every individual woman.? -- ?Woman and the New Race,? 1920 

roer de pot --- 172 days ago -

Learn to read. I never said abortion. Limiting the black population is what I said.

And that was never her intent. 

DVaz --- 172 days ago -

Read quote #3 

roer de pot --- 172 days ago -

1. "But for my view, I believe that there should be no more babies."-- Interview with John Parsons, 1947

Oh, yes, the one-minute video clip that has been sliced and diced; in the same video with Parsons, she said "it should be up to the parents to decide."



It is pointless to even educate you you further because you have proven that cherry picking is your thing, but it is certainly not mine.

The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."

Context is key. You can not take a single sentence and attribute it to someone without understanding the full context and complexity of the comment. From the same chapter of that book

The immorality of large families lies not only in their injury to the members of those families but in their injury to society. If one were asked offhand to name the greatest evil of the day one might, in the light of one?s education by the newspapers, or by agitators, make any one of a number of replies. One might say prostitution, the oppression of labor, child labor, or war. Yet the poverty and neglect which drives a girl into prostitution usually has its source in a family too large to be properly cared for by the mother, if the girl is not actually subnormal because her mother bore too many children, and, therefore, the more likely to become a prostitute. Labor is oppressed because it is too plentiful; wages go up and conditions improve when labor is scarce. Large families make plentiful labor and they also provide the workers for the child-labor factories as well as the armies of unemployed. That population, swelled by overbreeding, is a basic cause of war, we shall see in a later chapter. Without the large family, not one of these evils could exist to any considerable extent, much less to the extent that they exist to-day. The large family?especially the family too large to receive adequate care?is the one thing necessary to the perpetuation of these and other evils and is therefore a greater evil than any one of them. 2
First of the manifold immoralities involved in the producing of a large family is the outrage upon the womanhood of the mother. If no mother bore children against her will or against her feminine instinct, there would be few large families. The average mother of a baby every year or two has been forced into unwilling motherhood, so far as the later arrivals are concerned. It is not the less immoral when the power which compels enslavement is the church, state or the propaganda of well-meaning patriots clamoring against ?race suicide.? The wrong is as great as if the enslaving force were the unbridled passions of her husband. The wrong to the unwilling mother, deprived of her liberty, and all opportunity of self-development, is in itself enough to condemn large families as immoral. 3
The outrage upon the woman does not end there, however. Excessive childbearing is now recognized by the medical profession as one of the most prolific causes of ill health in women. There are in America hundreds of thousands of women, in good health when they married, who have within a few years become physical wrecks, incapable of mothering their children, incapable of enjoying life.



"We don?t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population..."-- Letter to Dr. Clarence J. Gamble, December 10, 1939, p. 2https://libex.smith.edu/omeka/...

Oh, this is a favorite of mine. Once again, critical thinking, intelligence, and honesty is required to fully comprehend what this statement means

In the late 1930s, she sought to bring clinics to black women in the South, in an effort that was called the ?Negro Project.? Sanger wrote in 1939 letters to colleague Clarence James Gamble that she believed the project needed a black physician and black minister to gain the trust of the community:

Sanger, 1939: The minister?s work is also important and he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.

Sanger says that a minister could debunk the notion, if it arose, that the clinics aimed to ?exterminate the Negro population.? She didn?t say that she wanted to ?exterminate? the black population. The Margaret Sanger Papers Project at New York University says that this quote has ?gone viral on the Internet,? normally out of context, and it ?doesn?t reflect the fact that Sanger recognized elements within the black community might mistakenly associate the Negro Project with racist sterilization campaigns in the Jim Crow south, unless clergy and other community leaders spread the word that the Project had a humanitarian aim.?

DVaz, stop listening to Hermain Cain. ?I accepted an invitation to talk to the women's branch of the Ku Klux Klan... I was escorted to the platform, was introduced, and began to speak...In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered.?

Once again, you are being completely dishonest, or ignorant, by only highlighting a portion of the passage

The ACTUAL passage

Always to me any aroused group was a good group, and therefore I accepted an invitation to talk to the women?s branch of the Ku Klux Klan at Silver Lake, New Jersey, one of the weirdest experiences I had in lecturing.

My letter of instruction told me what train to take, to walk from the station two blocks straight ahead, then two to the left. I would see a sedan parked in front of a restaurant. If I wished I could have ten minutes for a cup of coffee or bite to eat, because no supper would be served later.

I obeyed orders implicitly, walked the blocks, saw the car, found the restaurant, went in and ordered some cocoa, stayed my allotted ten minutes, then approached the car hesitatingly and spoke to the driver. I received no reply. She might have been totally deaf as far as I was concerned. Mustering up my courage, I climbed in the back and settled back. Without a turn of the head, a smile, or a word to let me know I was right, she stepped on the self-starter. For fifteen minutes we wound around the streets. It must have been towards six in the afternoon. We took this lonely lane and that through the woods, and an hour later pulled up in a vacant space near a body of water beside a large, unpainted, barnish building.

My driver got out, talked with several other women, then said to me severely, ?Wait here. We will come for you.? She disappeared. More cars buzzed up the dusty road into the parking place. Occasionally men dropped wives who walked hurriedly and silently within. This went on mystically until night closed down and I was alone in the dark. A few gleams came through chinks in the window curtains. Even though it was May, I grew chillier and chillier.

After three hours I was summoned at last and entered a bright corridor filled with wraps. As someone came out of the hall I saw through the door dim figures parading with banners and illuminated crosses. I waited another twenty minutes. It was warmer and I did not mind so much. Eventually the lights were switched on, the audience seated itself, and I was escorted to the platform, was introduced, and began to speak.

Never before had I looked into a sea of faces like these. I was sure that if I uttered one word, such as abortion, outside the usual vocabulary of these women they would go off into hysteria. And so my address that night had to be in the most elementary terms, as though I were trying to make children understand.

In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered. The conversation went on and on, and when we were finally through it was too late to return to New York. Under a curfew law everything in Silver Lake shut at nine o?clock. I could not even send a telegram to let my family know whether I had been thrown in the river or was being held incommunicado. It was nearly one before I reached Trenton, and I spent the night in a hotel.
 

roer de pot --- 172 days ago -

Read quote #3

I did, and I clapped back on you with a force.

Your inability to comprehend, while not surprising, is pathetic. You should be ashamed.

Sanger NEVER said SHE wanted to exterminate anyone, but rather, she didn't want the word to get out that that was happening, which is why she depended on black physicians. Basically, she was saying people that would believe that, like you, were stupid.

She worked closely with the black community. That is a fact, and no amount of you desperately wanting it to be otherwise will change that. Ever. 

DVaz --- 172 days ago -

What I claimed is what she said in the quote that is famous. I haven't seen one single person until you even try to disprove or debunk it. So thank you for your effort there. Reading comprehension wasn't the problem. I've never seen that other information because I haven't heard anyone mention it left or right. I went directly off the quote because that's all that I have ever seen or heard for years. I don't spend my hours researching her, sorry bud. But thanks for the information. I actually appreciate it. 

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