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OrdinaryGuy --- 141 days ago -

A few days ago Jack Minzey sent what was to be the final chapter in the long line of books and treatises which he had written.

Jack passed away Sunday, 8 April 2018. Professionally, Jack was head of the Department of Education at Eastern Michigan University as well as a prolific author of numerous books, most of which were on the topic of Education and the Government role therein.

This is the last of his works:

Civil War.
How do civil wars happen?
Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through elections because they don't even agree that elections are how you decide who's in charge.


That's the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.


The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it's not the first time they've done this.

The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There's a pattern here.


What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don't accept the results of any election that they don't win. It means they don't believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections. That's a civil war. There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice.


But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.
This isn't dissent. It's not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don't win, what you want is a dictatorship. Your very own dictatorship.


The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's inherently illegitimate. The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can't scratch his own back without his say so, that's the civil war.


Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country. If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. His power is unlimited. He's a dictator.


But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can't do anything. He isn't even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented. A Democrat in the White House has 'discretion' to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn't even have the 'discretion' to reverse him. That's how the game is played That's how our country is run. Sad but true, although the left hasn't yet won that particular fight.


When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren't even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws. Under Obama, a state wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.
The Constitution has something to say about that. Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.


Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding:


Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't serve in if you're not a member. If you haven't been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren't in the club. And Trump isn't in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren't in the club with him.



Now we're seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down. That's not a free country.



It's not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an 'insurance policy' against Trump winning the election.


It's not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition.


It's not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media.


It's not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn't supposed to win did.


Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a leftist Democrat professional government. 

LostWorld --- 141 days ago -

The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election.


A perception and misconception.


And yes Bush was able to steal the election in 2000. Fortunately, because we?d have been stuck with Al Gore, although 9/11 probably wouldn?t have happened. 

OrdinaryGuy --- 141 days ago -

A perception and misconception.

I don't know what world you are living in. Normally an investigation is started after a crime is committed. Mueller's is an investigation in search of a crime. There is a big difference.

I guess you missed the rest of it. 

LostWorld --- 141 days ago -

I realized pretty quickly this is just a far right article written as fodder for like minded people. Nothing profound about it at all. 

sdanielmcev --- 141 days ago -

I realized pretty quickly this is just a far right article written as fodder for like minded people. Nothing profound about it at all.?


Then factually deconstruct it. I'll wait. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 141 days ago -

And yes Bush was able to steal the election in 2000. Fortunately, because we?d have been stuck with Al Gore, although 9/11 probably wouldn?t have happened.

Oh BS. The SCOTUS case was about Florida following its own law. 9/11 was in the works years before and would've happened regardless of who was POTUS. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 141 days ago -

Normally an investigation is started after a crime is committed. Mueller's is an investigation in search of a crime. There is a big difference.


Exactly. How would you feel if the HPD started investigating your life looking for some crime you might have committed. That's not how our system is supposed to work. 

roer de pot --- 141 days ago -

I don't know what world you are living in. Normally an investigation is started after a crime is committed. Mueller's is an investigation in search of a crime. There is a big difference. I guess you missed the rest of it.

Why do you suppose a staunch Republican would do this?

Or, maybe you don't really know about you're talking about. There are things that have happened that you have no clue about. The investigation isn't all for public knowledge. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 141 days ago -

There are things that have happened that you have no clue about.

And you do? So, enlighten us all of what facts you know that aren't in the public domain. 

LostWorld --- 141 days ago -

Then factually deconstruct it. I'll wait.



I?m only saying it?s just an article written for people who already agree with the author. Preaching to the choir kind of a thing. It?s like sitting down to listen to a podcast that you know you?ll agree with, not very challenging intellectually. Settle down big fella. 

DVaz --- 141 days ago -

Globalists want a civil war to break up America. If there is one, most liberals will be slaughtered. The rest will pretend they are conservative or libertarian to avoid it. 

LostWorld --- 140 days ago -

Kinda sounds like you do too. 

DVaz --- 140 days ago -

Kinda sounds like you do too.

They aren't counting on American Patriots winning. I am. 

LostWorld --- 140 days ago -

Good luck with that. 

fuzz81 --- 140 days ago -

most liberals will be slaughtered

Typical republican fantasizing about violence. 

OrdinaryGuy --- 140 days ago -

Typical republican fantasizing about violence.?

Really...isn't it the liberals who are doing most of the violence now? 

DVaz --- 140 days ago -

Really...isn't it the liberals who are doing most of the violence now??

Oops, again Fuzz! 

OrdinaryGuy --- 140 days ago -

Really...isn't it the liberals who are doing most of the violence now??

Take a look at what they did in Portland, OR. 

roer de pot --- 140 days ago -

Really...isn't it the liberals who are doing most of the violence now?

No. 

Prolix Raconteur --- 139 days ago -

No.

Tell that to Steve Scalise. 

SoupIsGoodFood --- 139 days ago -

kswood --- 5 hours ago - quote - hide comments

Really...isn't it the liberals who are doing most of the violence now?


Yes...... 

fuzz81 --- 139 days ago -

That?s odd, since I?ve witnessed dvaz threaten people with violence on here a few times, and he?s a staunch rwnj

I?ve never seen violence suggested here by anyone from moderate to left. 

roer de pot --- 139 days ago -

Tell that to Steve Scalise.

Look at you, pretending like Jared Lee Loughner doesn't really exist. His writings immediately prior to shooting Gabby Gifford point blank range in the head were staunchly conservative.

Charlottesville violence? All those arrests and convictions of conservatives who engaged in violence - you want to pretend that didn't exist?

The KKK? You want to sit here and be dishonest and claim they are liberals, even though they publicly fight against liberals and progressives?

Sure thing, kid. 

roer de pot --- 139 days ago -

Oklahoma City Bombing - right wing terrorist

Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting - right wing, white supremacist terrorist

Newtown shooting - right wing terrorist who wanted to emulate Norway shooter

Scott Roeder
Bruce Turnidge
John Salvi
Paul Hill
Michael Frederick Griffin
Eric Rudolph

All right wing terrorists.

Do you know what the difference between the left and the right is?

The left admits we have extremists, and we condemn their actions.

The right blames everything on the left, regardless of facts. They take zero responsibility for literally everything. 

roer de pot --- 138 days ago -

Take a look at what they did in Portland, OR.

Portland

Gibson (right wing terrorist) has said attendees plan to bring guns and other weapons to the city for the upcoming August 4 rally. The Proud Boys, a far-right extremist group styled as a men?s drinking club, will provide armed ?security? for the event. In 2018, the SPLC named the Proud Boys a hate group because of its members? ties to the racist right, their rhetoric denigrating Muslims and women, and the group?s affiliation with events featuring right-wing extremists.

Tusitala ?Tiny? Toese (right wing terrorist) has cultivated a reputation for violence at Patriot Prayer?s many far-right rallies.

On Tuesday, Gibson appeared on Alex Jones' conspiracy mill, Infowars, where he told Jones he had a plan for far-right agitators, most of them Proud Boys, to don masks and ?infiltrate? groups of left-wing antifa counter-protesters on Saturday.

He elaborated in a Facebook video posted that afternoon, calling the scheme ?fun? and ?unique? and eagerly predicting it would ?bug? counter-protesters ?emotionally and psychologically.? But when discussing melee tactics, he also suggested the infiltrators would engage in physical violence. He told supporters not to worry about charging in to confront antifa, because, ?remember, we?re gonna have a bunch of people within antifa, okay? And they?re gonna take care of business within their group, too.?

Your complete ignorance of facts, and utter dishonesty is repulsive.

You have leaders of right wing terrorist groups advocating and committing violence, and yet STILL want to say liberals are the violent ones.

GO. SIT. DOWN. 

Prolix Raconteur --- 138 days ago -

Well, that's a conscious stream of making things up on the fly. Jarod Laughner was a diagnosed schizophrenic in and out of treatment. Adam Lanza in Newton was a complete nutcase schizophrenic teen on a massive amount of mind altering drugs with Mommy issues and had no political leanings. Oklahoma City was motivated by anti-government sentiment, regardless of what party held power at the time.

The guy that shot Scalise asked if the players on the field were Republicans or Democrats before opening fire. His own wife said he was vehemently anti-conservative/anti-Republican.

Charlottesville was mob violence between Antifa and alt right groups, someone ended up dead. Could have gone either way in that melee.

The KKK? LOL are they even still around? Some hicks knocking back beers in their trailer talking racist crap is the extent of the KKK.

The left condemns their own extremists? Really? Didn't see much admonishment when they beat, kicked, punched and spit on people leaving Trump rallies leading up to the election. 

LostWorld --- 138 days ago -

Oklahoma City was motivated by anti-government sentiment, regardless of what party held power at the time.



Oklahoma city happened in response to government tyranny. Thats why we have the 2nd amendment. Not sure why he's broadly condemned. 

Let Logic Prevail --- 138 days ago -

That's the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.


The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it's not the first time they've done this.



Such flawed....make that failed...logic here. 

Prolix Raconteur --- 138 days ago -

Citing the Southern Poverty Law Center as an objective source???

LOL... they're as bigoted as bigot gets. They just settled a huge lawsuit levied against them by Maajid Nawaz after they listed his group as an "Anti-Muslim Hate Group", which is the farthest thing from the truth. They even labeled human rights activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali as an Islamophobic Extremist for speaking out against female genital mutilation. They are the epitome of attacking the messenger when the message doesn't fit their liberal fold.

Sit down indeed. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 138 days ago -

Both ends of the political spectrum have gone off the rail- That's why many moderates like myself have distanced themselves from both parties. 

OrdinaryGuy --- 138 days ago -

Let's ask all these democrats and liberals on here one question.

Do you want to see Pres Trump fail and in turn the US fail? 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 138 days ago -

Oklahoma city happened in response to government tyranny.

OKC happened because of a misguided criminal. 

Markster --- 138 days ago -

kswood --- 22 hours ago - quote - hide comments

Oklahoma City Bombing - right wing terrorist

Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting - right wing, white supremacist terrorist

Newtown shooting - right wing terrorist who wanted to emulate Norway shooter

Scott Roeder
Bruce Turnidge
John Salvi
Paul Hill
Michael Frederick Griffin
Eric Rudolph

All right wing terrorists.

Do you know what the difference between the left and the right is?

The left admits we have extremists, and we condemn their actions.

The right blames everything on the left, regardless of facts. They take zero responsibility for literally everything.


What a great post!
Four gold stars, A+
That quote should go on the "best of KU" 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 138 days ago -

What a great post!
Four gold stars, A+
That quote should go on the "best of KU"


Only if you lack adult level discernment skills. 

LostWorld --- 138 days ago -

 

Markster --- 138 days ago -

Only if you lack adult level discernment skills.

Says the self appointed Emperor of Kw

The right blames everything on the left, regardless of facts. They take zero responsibility for literally everything.

Thanks for making my point bob. 

Prolix Raconteur --- 137 days ago -

What a great post!
Four gold stars, A+
That quote should go on the "best of KU"


interpretation - "Oooooo look, a shiny object!" 

roer de pot --- 137 days ago -

Laughner was a diagnosed schizophrenic in and out of treatment. Adam Lanza in Newton was a complete nutcase schizophrenic teen on a massive amount of mind altering drugs with Mommy issues and had no political leanings. Oklahoma City was motivated by anti-government sentiment, regardless of what party held power at the time.

Translation: Let me make a bunch of excuses for right-wing violence because it fits my agenda, facts be darned.

Charlottesville was mob violence between Antifa and alt right groups, someone ended up dead. Could have gone either way in that melee.

But it didn't go either way.

The KKK? LOL are they even still around? Some hicks knocking back beers in their trailer talking racist crap is the extent of the KKK.

The KKK is very much alive, and growing.
They are present in approximately 25 states.
There are approximately around 10,000 KNOW active members of the KKK throughout the country. Countless others support the Klan but hide in the shadows.
The modern KKK operate in separate chapters.
The Andrew Show has a Youtube channel geared towards white children, run by a Klansman.
David Duke still has a surprisingly strong connection to Congress, and in 2016 considered a run against Scalise.
Klan rallies continue in the US, in 2018, and often consist of cross burning and paramilitary training.

The left condemns their own extremists? Really? Didn't see much admonishment when they beat, kicked, punched and spit on people leaving Trump rallies leading up to the election.

Violence is never acceptable. I am on the left, and I condemn such actions.

Now, will you condemn trump supporters who violently attack, spit, and beat liberals? Will you condemn trump for encouraging violence against those who don't support, going so far as to offer to pay their legal fees?

Citing the Southern Poverty Law Center as an objective source???

I'm sorry - would InfoWars, and a crying, puffy-faced Alex Jones be a more suitable source for you?

They just settled a huge lawsuit levied against them by Maajid Nawaz after they listed his group as an "Anti-Muslim Hate Group", which is the farthest thing from the truth. They even labeled human rights activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali as an Islamophobic Extremist for speaking out against female genital mutilation.

And they have admitted being wrong on both accounts, issuing public apologies and removing the designation.
Being wrong twice doesn't negate the enormous amount of good that they do.

OKC happened because of a misguided criminal.

Always an excuse with you people, isn't there? McVeigh was an anti-government extremist militant. Period. He was more than just a mere criminal. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 137 days ago -

He was more than just a mere criminal.

No, he can hold whatever crack pot ideas he wants. What made him a criminal was his acts not his opinions. 

LostWorld --- 137 days ago -

He held crackpot ideas like the government shouldn?t try to physically disarm citizens and kill them when they don?t hand their guns over. 

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