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#MeToo Is Making Colleges Teach Toxic Masculinity 101

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Emperor of Kingwood --- 20 days ago -

Brown?s program is part of a growing trend on campuses to address ?toxic masculinity,? a term generally defined as elements of masculinity that encourage dominance and prevent men from showing emotion.


Men won't be men anymore 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 20 days ago -

AS long as they aren't gelding them, they'll still be men. Just a little more aware of what can come back to bite them in the butt. 

Prolix Raconteur --- 20 days ago -

Meanwhile, Colorado Children's Hospital has stopped designating the sex of child patients, in order to be compassionate for all the trans and non-binary children (since there's SO many little kids who are offended by being called "boy" or "girl").

Ain't progressivism grand?!


https://twitter.com/ChildrensColo/status/1042779186694418433?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1042779186694418433&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sarahpalin.com%2F2018%2F09%2F25%2Fchildrens-hospital-no-longer-gender-designation-patient-wristbands%2F 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 20 days ago -

AS long as they aren't gelding them, they'll still be men

They will still be male. Being a man is something different, but it generally starts with having danglers. 

sdanielmcev --- 20 days ago -

Won't work 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 20 days ago -

Prolix Raconteur --- 50 min ago - quote - hide comments
Meanwhile, Colorado Children's Hospital has stopped designating the sex of child patients, in order to be compassionate for all the trans and non-binary children (since there's SO many little kids who are offended by being called "boy" or "girl").


Absolutely ridiculous- 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 20 days ago -

This whole thing is going to boil down to a She said, he said. Unfortunately since she hasn't and wont submit and corroborative evidence the damage is already done to him with no hint of due process. Is this what America has become? 

SoupIsGoodFood --- 20 days ago -

Wrong thread, Emp

LOL 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 20 days ago -

yep. The button moved out of the way as I was trying to click it. 

sdanielmcev --- 20 days ago -

https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/talk-about-toxic-femininity-chwm/ 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 20 days ago -

I think athletes might actually be more aggressive than others. Maybe they need to be taught how to properly deal with aggression and anger?

There is clearly a problem with sexual assault on college campuses, 1 in 4 women according to statistics. and only a fraction are even reported.
If you don't think that's a problem, why? 

sdanielmcev --- 20 days ago -

It's a parenting problem. IMHO, it's because parents, nowadays, have been taught that whipping a kid is bad. On the cotrsry, if nothing tangible bad happens to the kid, when they get to college, or the real world, there is a different set of rules. Stuff does happen to you when you do bad things. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 20 days ago -

Emp, being a man is not determined by his aggressiveness, or lack of emotion. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 20 days ago -

Emp, being a man is not determined by his aggressiveness, or lack of emotion





I never said it did. 

sdanielmcev --- 20 days ago -

being a man is not determined by his aggressiveness,

Has been for the last 40,000 years 

Publius --- 20 days ago -

There is clearly a problem with sexual assault on college campuses, 1 in 4 women according to statistics. and only a fraction are even reported.
If you don't think that's a problem, why?



There is no way 1 in 4 women is sexually assaulted on college campuses. Why?

Reason 1:
Why would women willingly go to a place where they have a 1 in 4 chance of getting sexually assaulted?


Reason 2:

What Dad would pay to have their daughter go to a place where they have a 20% chance of being sexual assaulted?


Everyone knows that statistic is false. An unwanted kiss was classified as sexual assault among other serious flaws in the source study.... 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 20 days ago -

There is clearly a problem with sexual assault on college campuses, 1 in 4 women according to statistics. and only a fraction are even reported.
If you don't think that's a problem, why?


40% of males have been physically assaulted by a female. That includes a slap, a shove or a thrown object. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 19 days ago -

TinktheSprite --- 19 days ago -

I see no problem teaching young men how to be a gentleman, to curb sexual urges in all situations, that "no means no", stronger is not necessarily better, women are not sex objects, that it's okay to be sensitive, and have feelings show...to put down the toilet seat and pick up their sox (j/k with the last two, sort of) . If these values aren't taught or learned at home then by all means, address them in school. Schools usually takes up the slack on all things that aren't taught at home. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 19 days ago -

to curb sexual urges in all situations,

What does that mean? 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 19 days ago -

and have feelings show.

I don't know about that one. 

TinktheSprite --- 19 days ago -

to curb sexual urges in all situations,

What does that mean?


Does this really have to be explained?? 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 19 days ago -

Its a matter of perspective. Men may have a different perspective on what that means than a woman. I assume your perspective is that of a woman. That doesn't automatically mean its the only perspective. If, it means do not act on your sexual urges in an ungentlemanly way, then I would agree. 

TinktheSprite --- 19 days ago -

Well, yes, if taken in context of my entire post then your assumptions would be correct. If you decide to read between the lines and put words into my mouths, then your prospective would be wrong. This was posted as no cause for discourse, only an opinion as with most posts here. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 19 days ago -

I was pointing out that your condescending remark, Does this really have to be explained?? , is a matter of perspective. 

jackass --- 19 days ago -

How does a hashtag make anyone do anything? Isn?t that like saying a gun killed someone? 

Let Logic Prevail --- 19 days ago -

The fact is Toxic Masculinity 101 is taught at home and spread among peers when growing up. It is rampant in our society. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 17 days ago -

Can anyone actually provide a consensus definition of toxic masculinity?

How about we talk about toxic femininity? 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 17 days ago -

Why are you so against teaching athletes not to be aggressive with women? What's the harm? 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 17 days ago -

They need to ask Bill Cosby, Henry Weinstein, Chris Watt, Roger Ailes, Matt Lauer, Charlie Rose and the other 219 men who have resigned in the last 2 years or been fired for their actions. Go straight to the source. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 17 days ago -

I'm obviously not against teaching young men gentlemanly behavior which does NOT include being disrespectful to anyone.

However, that's not the extent of whats being taught. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 17 days ago -

What extent is that? They're teaching not to be sexually aggressive- it's for their sake as well as for the girls. As Sifi pointed out, all those men lost their jobs and reputation. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 17 days ago -

Did you read the article? 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 17 days ago -

Define sexual aggressiveness? What does that mean? If it means physical aggressiveness you'll get no argument from me. My concern is that term is extrapolated into many other areas of the male experience. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 17 days ago -

Yes, I did. What is it that bothered you? 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 17 days ago -

There are a couple things that bother me.

One is the definition of "toxic masculinity" All I see is general attributes which seem to get extrapolated into many other areas. The whole term connotes that being masculine is toxic.

The other term is aggressiveness. I'm not talking about physical aggression towards another person for sex. I'm talking about aggressiveness in defense of a woman a child or the nation or the home. What kind of men do you want?

Also, those very attributes of aggressiveness in other areas, such as business, politics, sports, etc. can determine success and power which, lets face it, attracts women.

I'll say it once again, young men should be taught to act as gentlemen. But should not be taught that being male is somehow toxic. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 17 days ago -

My take was more like the mindset of "as long as I don't touch, I can say or act any way I want", was what they were addressing. I saw nothing about protecting women and children. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 17 days ago -

My comment was more about the term aggressive and toxic. Thy don't seem to have limits n the definition of aggressive, so therefore, it means anything anyone wants it to mean. Its a bit like bullying and assault rifle. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 17 days ago -

"as long as I don't touch, I can say or act any way I want",

To me, that falls within the definition of gentlemanly behavior. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 17 days ago -

I agree. 

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