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kingwood resident 2
AwesomeTattooedDragon 1
Let Logic Prevail 2
Joe Blow 3
TinktheSprite 7
sheddy 1
sdanielmcev 6
Emperor of Kingwood 5
DVaz 2
SodaPopAndRitalin 2
Markster 2
Prolix Raconteur 5
OrdinaryGuy 5
KwMillennial 8

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TinktheSprite --- 89 days ago -

I have a good friend up North affected by the Government Shutdown. They have savings for these events. But this is the longest so far with no end in sight. I am also certain they had plans for their savings account. It's cold in Illinois. I feel badly that their family are pawns in this silly scheme. It was 11 degrees up there yesterday. I fear they are in for a long hard winter. 

OrdinaryGuy --- 89 days ago -

They aren't losing their pay. Pres Trump has already signed a bill to pay all their back pay when the gov't opens. Maybe the democrats should compromise but I doubt it. They are hypocrites as they voted twice before under Obama for the same thing. They just don't want to give the Pres a win. 

sdanielmcev --- 89 days ago -

Any govt employee knows they will get their full pay. 

TinktheSprite --- 89 days ago -

I never said they lost pay. They are doing WITHOUT pay and it's not been easy. They are smart and they have saved for this moment in time because being a Federal worker, they know about these shutdowns. They've been through it before. Christmas was hard(er), buying groceries is harder, repairs to their cars and home is harder. Everything is harder without income. Hopefully they can celebrate soon and get a paycheck again. But even at that, it will be 3-4 weeks to catch up. 

OrdinaryGuy --- 89 days ago -

Then maybe they should contact the democrats and ask them to compromise. 

KwMillennial --- 88 days ago -

My father is affected by this. He says he has a lot of money set aside for times like this, but feels for all the new hires that might still be living paycheck to paycheck. He thinks this is going to be the new normal unless Congress passes some kind of automatic funding at the prior year’s level. He used some kind of term for that but I don’t remember what it was.

None of my friends went for government jobs, but one of my brothers is expecting a lot of IT job openings he’ll put in for once the current workers get tired of being without pay and find other jobs in the private sector. I hope it works out for him. 

SodaPopAndRitalin --- 88 days ago -

Compromise to trump boot lickers mean to give him what he wants; that isn't compromising.
He's offering things he has already taken away, is short term, or something he's lied about already.

The wall isn't going to happen. It's ineffective and nothing but a monument to bigotry and ignorance. 

KwMillennial --- 88 days ago -

What do you mean when you refer to the wall?

Are you saying that no portion of the wall works? If this is your position, then why is no one trying to take it down? Why was it ok when it was being built, and ok when they agreed to build more under the last President, and why did it suddenly stop working under this President?

Or are you saying that the wall is already built out as far as it needs to be and any more wall is just too much? If this is what you are trying to say, who made that determination? I can’t find anything like that on the internet that doesn’t come from politicians. So post a link if you can. Thanks 

KwMillennial --- 88 days ago -

How is having a wall bigotry and ignorant? Is the law bigoted or is enforcement of the law bigoted? 

KwMillennial --- 88 days ago -

How is having a wall bigotry and ignorant? Is the law bigoted or is enforcement of the law bigoted? 

Prolix Raconteur --- 88 days ago -

You won't get an answer to a logical question like that. 

Let Logic Prevail --- 88 days ago -

They aren't losing their pay. Pres Trump has already signed a bill to pay all their back pay when the gov't opens.


How about you donate your paycheck to one of them until such time that Trump does the right thing and handles this like an adult? I suggest that since you seem to think it's no big deal they're going payless.

You can always hold a garage sale. 

Let Logic Prevail --- 88 days ago -

Are you saying that no portion of the wall works?


No one here has ever said that. We already have 800 miles of wall in place on a 2000 mile border. We now need things other than a wall to shore up our border.

Democrats are also not for open borders so remove that thought while you're at it. 

TinktheSprite --- 88 days ago -

Thing is, the Wall has nothing to do with families who are hurting now. Is it okay to blame them for living paycheck to paycheck or not planning for unannounced, unplanned non payment days? Weeks? Months? The average American family already has a difficult time both saving and providing for their families. Food drives, restaurant meal give aways, soup kitchens, free beer etc. Most if the public is concerned about helping the immediate problem of feeding and clothing and keeping families in need warm with a roof over their head, not about construction of a wall. Have some compassion, People! 

Prolix Raconteur --- 88 days ago -

Government is too bloated with numerous examples of overlapping bureaucracy, not to mention tens of thousands of private contractors on the government dole. Hopefully this will thin that out and they can find work back in the private sector. 

KwMillennial --- 88 days ago -

e already have 800 miles of wall in place on a 2000 mile border. W

Ok so does that 800 mile wall work? You did say walls don’t work. So why are we not talking about tearing down that walll? Why not just say that 800 miles of wall works, but another 1,200 will not work?

Maybe then I can understand what the real issue is. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 88 days ago -

This thread isn't about the wall, it's about people who have been affected by this! 

sdanielmcev --- 88 days ago -

Maybe then I can understand what the real issue is

The real issue, as I see it is a power struggle that shouldn't be happening. The dems lost the presidency. Badly. They were made to look like fools. And badly. Sort of like a high school team beating a professional one. Their policies were dismissed by America. Now they're doing the only thing they can, crying out to America, "We was robbed." That, too is now failing. If the dems were smart they'd give Trump the wall and seem like the peacemakers. Trump still has 2020 in hand, so he won't lose, no matter what media tries to portray.
Sorry to be off topic, atd. 

sdanielmcev --- 88 days ago -

It's hard to show compassion for faceless people with cush federal jobs. But, to make it my responsibility is blarney. It is Congress' responsibility. No one else's. 

OrdinaryGuy --- 88 days ago -


The wall isn't going to happen. It's ineffective and nothing but a monument to bigotry and ignorance. 


Actually you are wrong. Anywhere there is a wall like San Diego or El Paso it has been proven to work.

The wall will happen. You watch him declare an emergency build it with unallocated funds. Watch and see. He doesn't need Congress for that. The law has been used 31 times before so it is legal. Even Obama used it. It's coming if the democrats won't compromise. 

KwMillennial --- 88 days ago -

It's hard to show compassion for faceless people with cush federal jobs.

For you it might be faceless but for me it’s not. My dad’s been a career federal law enforcement officer. I know he has received death threats from criminals. He showed me one of the threat letters that was sent to him. Is that a cush federal job? What makes it cush? Would you say the same thing about soldiers in the military who also put their life on the line?

The federal IT workers he was telling my brother about often leave the federal jobs for higher paying jobs in the private sector. If it was so cush, why would they leave? 

sdanielmcev --- 88 days ago -

My sister and a sister in law are both furloughed. Bite me if you think you're special. 

KwMillennial --- 88 days ago -

Here we again. I really do not understand the weird responses here.Who said I was special and why would I want to bite you? I really want to know what triggered you.

What was wrong with my questions? Was I supposed to just take your comments about cush jobs as fact? 

sheddy --- 88 days ago -

In the eighties,we knew so many people who where in the oil industry and were losing everything they had. Of course, some were living way beyond their means and with the loss of a paycheck if all came crashing down. My husband and I decided we would have a six month cushion and hopefully that would never happen to us. It’s never to late to start socking away money for the unexpected. 

sdanielmcev --- 88 days ago -

Learn American social culture kW. 

TinktheSprite --- 88 days ago -

The real issue, as I see it is a power struggle that shouldn't be happening.

The real issue are children who have out grown last winter's coats and their parents don't have an income to buy them new ones. 

sdanielmcev --- 86 days ago -

Sadly, Tink, I grew up poor. So, new coats were not something I'd look forward to. You're falling for the crap that the media says you should worry about. 

OrdinaryGuy --- 86 days ago -

If the democrats are so concerned about the laid off federal employees why are they taking a 3 day long weekend?

BTW...that trip Pres Trump cancelled had 7 democrats and their FAMILIES going to Europe on the tax payers money. There were 86 family members going who weren't elected. Pelosi said it was necessary for them to go. I wonder why it was necessary for their families to go. It seems to me that it was a boondoggle.

That's something the biased media would never tell you unless it was Republicans going on the trip. 

Prolix Raconteur --- 85 days ago -

The real issue are children who have out grown last winter's coats and their parents don't have an income to buy them new ones.

You really believe these people don't have credit cards to buy essentials for a couple of weeks? You see them on TV lamenting their mortgage. What a joke. It's only been a couple of weeks and they act like they're about to get evicted. Media portrays them sitting in their unheated home, cold, penniless and starving, staring at an empty pantry. It's ludicrous.

I get it that its a major inconvenience, but it's being overplayed. 

KwMillennial --- 85 days ago -


I get it that its a major inconvenience, but it's being overplayed


I’m sure the border patrol agents missing paychecks really appreciate that it is being “overplayed” 

Prolix Raconteur --- 85 days ago -

It sucks but at least they know they have a job and the worst thing that's happening to them is a delayed paycheck. They're losing nothing.

Way better position to be in than getting laid off in the private sector with nothing but a box of your personal effects to show for it. Which happens to everyday people, everyday. 

Joe Blow --- 85 days ago -

Public disapproval of President Trump has grown five points to 58 percent over three months as a majority of Americans continue to hold him and congressional Republicans most responsible for the partial federal government shutdown, according to a new ABC News poll.

More than 1 in 5 Americans say they have been personally inconvenienced by the record-long shutdown, which reached the five-week mark Friday amid reports of turmoil at airports, slowdowns at the Internal Revenue Service and growing public pain as 800,000 federal workers, and many government contractors, go without pay.


LMFAO 

Joe Blow --- 85 days ago -

B U R P 

TinktheSprite --- 85 days ago -

I hope one day when you are without a paycheck, Prolix you might see things differently and realize this is more than a simple inconvenience. Its so easy to think what you would do i.e. run up your credit cards etc, while you are not involved or in the trenches. Been there, done that. It's not fun. The plan to "not to eat, get dental work done, go to the doctor, put gas in the car, etc., until this is over" doesn't work.

Federal workers will receive a paycheck in 4-6 weeks, that is if the shutdown ends tomorrow. 

TinktheSprite --- 85 days ago -

I'm not falling for anyone's crap. I am personally invested. 

Joe Blow --- 85 days ago -

[i]I hope one day when you are without a paycheck, Prolix you might see things differently [/ 

Prolix Raconteur --- 85 days ago -

Man, apparently some of y'all still handle your finances like children. Who the hell has full time employment, or even a dual income household, and literally goes broke after 2 weeks without a paycheck and has no means to offset? People who live beyond their means, that's who. 

SodaPopAndRitalin --- 85 days ago -

Government opening back up.

No wall.

lmfao

It's been a good day. 

TinktheSprite --- 85 days ago -

I understand that people generally relate to things, ideas, and situations based on their own personal experiences. People draw upon resources by what they know. Some of you have been very fortunate in life never have been through any thing like this, no job pauses, or doing without, let alone creative budgeting. That is where your imagination helps you to become empathetic to other. Put yourselves in their shoes.

Not all situations are the same. Not fair to judge people for only the reasons YOU can understand. Think outside of your box if you have never been affected by something like this. Think about back when you were a New Hire just getting on your feet with college loans, credit card debt etc.. Maybe you hada new baby at home that needs diapers and formula (have you priced those things lately??). And you're not sure how to budget since you don't know how long no funds will last. Or worried that you may have LOST your job because you coldn't afford to show up for no paycheck in favor of finding work that actually pays. While this may not be you and your life, it is for many. 

kingwood resident --- 83 days ago -

Logic Prevail, you have no logic. The Democrats most definitely want open borders where have you been? We need the wall to keep out massive amounts of illegals that are coming into our country everyday. In that group are criminals, drug cartels, sex traffickers who are kidnapping young children, boys and girls alike, young women and boys. It is time to enforce the law, close our borders, build that Wall!!! Give our President the money he needs now. 

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