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AMDG --- 65 days ago -

Thought this might be worth its own topic.

As we see on the board here - there is a growing belief that you can not trust the main street media - that they are "fake news".

It is also very clear that this belief starts at the White House - and generally in response to reports the white house finds unfavorable.

I find this growing belief pretty dangerous stuff. We, as a people need information. And we need information sources we can trust. Without this kind of information, we are only left with whatever narrative a biased report is providing - this goes for both sides. We can't fact check in a world where facts are relative.

I do not think the main stream media is even close to as biased as some make out. Certainly not when it comes to factually reporting news.

On a post awhile back I asked for concrete examples of "false news" from main stream media - and didn't get any.

But the main stream media is not without fault - it is clear that many are not trump supporters - and there is nothing wrong with that - but it has to stay on the op-ed pages. They need to work harder IMO on keeping that bias out of the actual reports, and the reports they chose to cover.

All that said - I do think that the major media sources. NY Times, Wash Post, WSJ, NPR, major networks - all have fairly high journalistic standards still. And on news stories are factual. And - correct/retract stories that prove to be incorrect.

This, IMO, not well supported attack on them as "fake news" by the White House and easily bought into by their supporters is a potentially dangerous thing. 

Dorothy Parker --- 65 days ago -

I couldn't agree more. 

Karras --- 65 days ago -

I do not think the main stream media is even close to as biased as some make out

You are kidding right?

"A new report found that President Trump has received more hostile treatment from the mainstream media than any other president in U.S. history.

According to the Media Research Center, 89 percent of broadcast networks' coverage of Trump has been negative.

From January 20 to April 9, 1,501 on-air statements about Trump made by experts, voters and reporters were negative, compared to just 186 positive, the study found.

It also revealed that most of the negative coverage of Trump was focused on his travel ban, Russia's meddling in the U.S. election, the ObamaCare repeal, immigration enforcement, and Trump's allegations that President Obama had him wiretapped."

link title

I don't recall Wolf Blitze dancing around and drinking wine at the RNC convention. 

Karras --- 65 days ago -

And you know if it was a President Hillary Clinton the media would have spent the first 100 days talking about how awesome it is to have a woman president, and if there was any pushback on her stupid ideas from the Republicans the media would have said it is because she is a woman.

And you know the media would have buried any of the her email and Clinton Foundation problems. 

AMDG --- 65 days ago -

You are kidding right?

No not really - what I would like to see is factually incorrect stories - and there will be some - that is not new. But then they should be factually corrected.

A fox news story citing a media source with "fighting liberal media" as its objective - is an example of the problem.

And your latching on to it without any reservation as a "fact" points to the danger. 

AMDG --- 65 days ago -

And you know if it was a President Hillary Clinton

We really have to stop comparing anything the President of the US does to a hypothetical world where he is not president and assuming it is better. Has no merit in reality. In reality - he is POTUS and now we should be judging his actions and accomplishments.

Ya'll go to let the "but Hillary" thing go - 

UnbeatableSoup --- 65 days ago -

AMDG trying to do some damage control 

Karras --- 65 days ago -

History will show that the Russia hacking story was the biggest piece of fake news ever pushed by the media.

The objective of the media has been to delegitimize President Trump. 

UnbeatableSoup --- 65 days ago -

16 Fake News Stories Reporters Have Run Since Trump Won

Are all of these fake "fake" news stories? 

AMDG --- 65 days ago -

went through the link and found 3 items from main stream major media souces noted.

1 - using hyperbole in a headline - da, but they even say the story was factual.

2. Wash post article that was corrected

3. Gun vote article that was misleading.

Hardly enough here to discount the entire main stream media. 

UnbeatableSoup --- 65 days ago -

Sure thing.

16 instances.

I'm sure they were all honest mistakes.

You just can't admit it. The main "street" media is aligned to try and negatively affect the Trump presidency.

You're doing your part by trying excuse and defend what they're doing. 

JustWatching --- 65 days ago -

I'll say it again. It's been over 10 months that the investigation of Mr Trump's campaign and Russian ties has been going on. You would think that they would have found something by now but they haven't. This will go down in history as a waste of time and money. I wonder how long the left will keep it up before they give up on it. 

Butterbean --- 65 days ago -

Think Benghazi. I'll say it again: Think Benghazi. 

AMDG --- 65 days ago -

Did you actually read that link soup? Using their criteria I could write an article with the title:

375 crazy pro trump articles posted on ku by karras in the last 2 weeks. 

jackass --- 65 days ago -

Butterbean forgot that its only ok for republicans to badger a candidate and beat a dead horse... 

jackass --- 65 days ago -

Did you actually read that link soup?



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It is I WhyWhyWhy --- 65 days ago -

Fake news has been happening for decades. It didn't start with Trump and won't end when he is dead and buried. Unless we demand that the media be held legally and criminally liable for their lies and biased reporting it will continue. Bernard Goldberg wrote Biased in 2001. Even the local news slants, manipulates and outright lies about news.

Even things like hurricanes and other storms are made out to be so much worse than they actually are that people quit believing them and don't leave when they should. I have been saying this for years. They are going to get people killed.

The lies they have told about Trump have gotten lots of people attacked and injured during protest.

The way the media has covered the police shooting have led to more and more police officer deaths.

Our media is out of control and needs to be held accountable now. 

Leila --- 65 days ago -

The news channels are entertainment networks,not news. The drama queens on all sides just play a role and get paid highly for it. They are personalities, not journalists.

Bad news is what gets an audience. No one reports on anything except what can keep people stirred up.

It is "breaking news" all day long. It is so ridiculous what qualifies for breaking news. I have pretty much stopped watching all news programs. 

UnbeatableSoup --- 65 days ago -

375 crazy pro trump articles posted on ku by karras in the last 2 weeks.

......and this affects the main "street" media how? 

AMDG --- 65 days ago -

Leila - I couldn't agree more. CNN, huffington, breibart, MSNBC, etc are entertainment - and the best way for them to gain audience is to incite.

But what I am concerned about, is that stuff all being lumped in with serious main stream journalism, and all of it being discounted as false.

So I am back to I do not believe serious main stream real news sources. Such as ny times, wsj, wash post, economist, ect, knowingly misreport facts. Continue to have journalistic integrity, and are still trusted sources of information. And it is dangerous to our system of government when they get lumped into the same basket as the info/entertainment group.

I still say there is no pattern of knowingly false information being reported by these sources, yet there is a growing mistrust of them started by the White House, and bought into by his supporters - with little to no evidence that justifies it. 

AMDG --- 65 days ago -

As an example. If the director of the FBI testifies that they are investigating Russian involvement in the election process, and mainstream media reports, "the FBI is investigating Russian involvement....". That is news whether you think the investigation is valid or not. it is not false news that the FBI is conducting an investigation. 

sdanielmcev --- 65 days ago -

Remember the Maine!!! 

AMDG --- 65 days ago -

Exactly Daniel - and that yellow journalism is what gave rise to the schools of journalism in the early 1900's that taught journalistic integrity. The huff post, breibart's et al are a regression back into yellow journalism IMO 

UnbeatableSoup --- 64 days ago -

I still say there is no pattern of knowingly false information being reported by these sources

I gave you 16 examples. 

UnbeatableSoup --- 64 days ago -

Just yesterday. The NYT times pushing the fake reporting of the Patriots gathering at the WH.

Another example. 

Karras --- 64 days ago -

Here is the bias I am referring to. On my Windows 10 start up page/news feed here are the headlines on Trump and is administration:
1. Fact Checking Trump's claims as 100 day mark approaches - AP (Did they do that with Obama?)
2. Protestors to Trump: Science Matters - CNN. Anyone ever give voice to dissenters of man made climate change? Or is the one time, ever, where science is settled?
3. Democrats already training operative to take on Trump - NBC News
4. US Scientists Rally in Washington to Protest Trumo policies - Reuters
5. What's it like to eat dinner at the same restaurant as the Obama's? Business Insider - Really?
6. Pence Embraces US - Australia partnership after Trump spat - AP
7. Border Wall catastrophic for endangered species - NBC News
8. Protestor Suing Trump over Rally violence speaks out - MSNBC
9. Report: Russia TRIED to infiltrate Trump campaign through advisers - The Hill (TRIED means did not succeed)
10. Sources: Russia TRIED infiltrating Trump camp - CNN

Were there any positive stories on Trump?
1. Trump awards Purple Heart to wounded soldier.


That's it. Nothing about Trump getting the hostages releases, nothing about him ending Female Genitilia mutilation in the US, nothing about putting Americans and American products first in US government sourcing.



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UnbeatableSoup --- 64 days ago -

LOL...... AMDG just doesn't see this bias you're talking about. 

JustWatching --- 64 days ago -

That's because he doesn't want to see it. 

AMDG --- 64 days ago -

1. Fact Checking Trump's claims as 100 day mark approaches - AP (Did they do that with Obama?)

Pres trump made repeated claims/promises of what he would accomplish in the first 100 days, is it not news to check the reality vs the promise?

2. Protestors to Trump: Science Matters - CNN. Anyone ever give voice to dissenters of man made climate change? Or is the one time, ever, where science is settled?

There are marches all over the world many rightly or wrongly against trump. Is that not news? Should it not be covered?

3. Democrats already training operative to take on Trump - NBC News

Is there something factually wrong here ?

4. US Scientists Rally in Washington to Protest Trumo policies - Reuters.

See above, the protests are news

5. What's it like to eat dinner at the same restaurant as the Obama's? Business Insider - Really?

I have seen at least 4 of the same type stories about trump - what he eats at 21 etc etc

6. Pence Embraces US - Australia partnership after Trump spat - AP

Something factually wrong here?

7. Border Wall catastrophic for endangered species - NBC News

There is evidence it will be - is that supposed to be ignored?

8. Protestor Suing Trump over Rally violence speaks out - MSNBC
Entertainment not news - not what my issue is

9. Report: Russia TRIED to infiltrate Trump campaign through advisers - The Hill (TRIED means did not succeed)

It is news if they tried - was it mis-reported?

10. Sources: Russia T

Seems like you consider anything not pro trump to be "false"

The hostage realease story was well covered, and the trump admin was given credit.

I think ya'll want the mainstream media to be breibart or like the many far right sites you post to be considered correct. 

JustWatching --- 64 days ago -

Watch the news...a lot of times they only tell half the story which could and has affected how the story sounds. When Bill Clinton was campaigning and talking about Obamacare, his first sentence said something like it was a crazy program because prices were going up and deductibles were going up. When NBC reported it they edited out his first sentence (for time they said) but what they showed completed changed what Clinton said. In my opinion half truths are lies!!

Here's an example you wanted. 

Butterbean --- 64 days ago -

What the president does or doesn't do is news.

What congress does or doesn't do is news.

What people around the world do or don't do is news.

With a free press, the news is more reliable and further reaching. It is and always has been up to the reader to value or not value the reporter. Yes, commercial news sources have consolidated in recent years, becoming less varied than 15 years (or any period) ago.

Access to information, however, has never been greater.

It's news whether your particular sacred cow gets gored or not.

Sanity is also a human construct. I have doubts that it currently resides in the WH; I'm ready and willing to be proven wrong. 

El Padrino --- 64 days ago -

Sounds nice.

You're going to love his second term. 

UnbeatableSoup --- 64 days ago -

You're really going to love his next SCOTUS appointment. 

JustWatching --- 64 days ago -

Pres trump made repeated claims/promises of what he would accomplish in the first 100 days, is it not news to check the reality vs the promise?

Pres Obama...."You can keep your doctor and health insurance costs will go down." Did anybody fact check him? 

UnbeatableSoup --- 64 days ago -

Stand by for a Butters or AMDG excuse for that. 

AMDG --- 64 days ago -

Pres Obama...."You can keep your doctor and health insurance costs will go down." Did anybody fact check him?

Yes 

sdanielmcev --- 64 days ago -

You've bought into the 'panic mode' that the media sells. If you want information, read a book. Everyone has biases. Learning those biases, including your own, will help sort out the table end fiction from the media. Note I don't say news. Media is, or was before the inception of the internet, a one-way affair. Now, the mainstream media is called home to roost when they broadcast their falsehoods.
I don't watch TV. Try it, read books. 

sdanielmcev --- 64 days ago -

https://youtu.be/YHimia_Fxzs 

Behold the pale horse --- 63 days ago -

It isn't about the factual nature of vany given story. Its about the spin on that story and the interjection of personal reporter bias into the facts of the story.

If Trump jumped out of a boat and walked on water to save a drowning man, the story would read Trump can't swim. 

urabunchcats --- 63 days ago -

Unfortunately for our country
the LAMEstream media
is in bed with the LAMEocrats.

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