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Tuition Free College- Who pays for that?

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TweakyPuma --- 4 years ago -

The democrats want to make public colleges free to everyone. Whom is going to pay for that....the US gov't. More debt for our children to pay off. 

SoupIsGoodFood --- 4 years ago -

Yep. Ignorance reigns supreme with this group. 

Holling Vincoeur --- 4 years ago -

I assume both of you feel guilty for sending your kids to public schools...and not just because they had to take "Texas history". 

TweakyPuma --- 4 years ago -

They always talk about giving away free things to get votes. They say the same thing every 4 years. They never change. 

fuzz81 --- 4 years ago -

I'm paying for your kids education in my property taxes (about $15k/year after homestead exemption)

Am I complaining?

Should we remove all public school? 

Holling Vincoeur --- 4 years ago -

I'm an independent but it really doesn't seem like the Republicans have a high standard for America... 

TweakyPuma --- 4 years ago -

I'm an independent but it really doesn't seem like the Republicans have a high standard for America...?

Then stay with the democrats and when they need more taxes you may find you've just become rich by their standards and raise your taxes.

To fuzzy who pays 15K a year in property taxes, you will be paying a ton more in income taxes if they make college free. There are no free rides. Someone always has to pay the bills. Notice the dems don't say who is going to pay for the free college. 

Zapper009 --- 4 years ago -

Should we remove all public school??

Great Pubie idea - as usual...lol 

SoupIsGoodFood --- 4 years ago -

Yep. Ignorance reigns supreme with this group.

Proven. 

TweakyPuma --- 4 years ago -

OK soupy...who is going to pay for the free college education that the dems want? Please tell me...I'm interested to know. 

fuzz81 --- 4 years ago -

To fuzzy who pays 15K a year in property taxes, you will be paying a ton more in income taxes if they make college free

Of course someone has to pay for it.

It's also only for public college. It's not like your paying for free Harvard tuitions for whoever wants to go.

You're missing my point. Should we stop paying for K-12, or continue to invest in education?

Years ago, high school educations were enough for good jobs in manufacturing. It's not the case anymore. College educations today are akin to grade 12 educations of previous generations.

As people become more educated and more employable, they make higher wages and thus pay more taxes putting back into the system. 

fuzz81 --- 4 years ago -

Imagine if none of us paid into HISD in our property taxes (including all those without children in school), and every individual with children had to pay out of pocket to put their kids into public schools how much it would cost. 

fuzz81 --- 4 years ago -

NOBODY complains about paying for public schools, because everyone understands that educating all children is important. It's for the greater good.

Education makes for a productive society, lowers crime, improves domestic innovation etc etc

Imagine what would happen if basic public education weren't socialized. 

Holling Vincoeur --- 4 years ago -

NOBODY complains about paying for public schools, because everyone understands that educating all children is important.


Republicans are slowly chipping away at that notion...and I really don't think they get it. The value they put on education is sad.


If it was left up to them everything would be privatized and no one would make more than a dollar an hour. And they'd never question the boss... 

them --- 4 years ago -

Not to worry. Hillary doesn't actually believe in the idea of free college. I mean, how would,her banker friends make money from student loan interest (the only loan immune to bankruptcy).


Hillary doesn't actually want free college. She's just saying that because the Bernie supporters are listening. 

Holling Vincoeur --- 4 years ago -

More campaign promises... 

SoupIsGoodFood --- 4 years ago -

.......... for the ignorant sheeple. 

whatchamacallit --- 4 years ago -

Not only do they not speak of who is going to have to pay for all of their freebies, what about this? Some people aren't able to do college level work. Are we to lower the standards AGAIN, so that everyone can get in and passes? A degree will mean even less than it does now. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 4 years ago -

Republicans are slowly chipping away at that notion...and I really don't think they get it. The value they put on education is sad.


What an ignorant comment. You apparently haven't been listening to the R platform statements on education. Rs believe it should be left to the local and state level and the citizens thereof and NOT to the federal government which has shown negative results. 

AMDG --- 4 years ago -

IMO college is as much investment as it is expense. I think Fuzz has a point - in the spectrum of government spending - increased spending on college education could be a very good thing.

IMO the best way to do this would be interest free federal loans - maybe with some small interest penalty if you do not graduate.

In this plan the only cost to the taxpayer would be the time value of money between the loan and the repayment - and the people getting the load still have some skin in the game 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 4 years ago -

In this plan the only cost to the taxpayer would be the time value of money between the loan and the repayment - and the people getting the load still have some skin in the game

About 40+% of college loans are in default. 

AMDG --- 4 years ago -

Agree - and the cost of defaults - good point 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 4 years ago -

I could get behind some sort of plan for tech schools and other job/vocational training, but I think that should take place at the high school level.

I could also get behind some sort of graduated subsidy for college programs that are in greater need by our society. For instance, STEM, Medical, etc. 

AMDG --- 4 years ago -

I am not sure of much, but I am pretty sure the only way out of systemic poverty is education. In general I am all for government money well invested in quality education, especially when it is directed to help the disadvantaged. Back to Fuzz's point every family we move from government assistance to self sufficiency - is very positive in many ways.

That said - I would like to see something done about the for profit colleges/training programs. I am sure some are good, but in the main I think they are selling snake oil, and are living off the student loan programs in large measure. I would not be surprised if they did not have above average levels of defaults. 

SoupIsGoodFood --- 4 years ago -

Irony.

Democrats that charge exorbitant speaking fees to colleges are complaining that college costs too much. 

AMDG --- 4 years ago -

NPR today on student loans

Timely article the subject for those who want to read. 

TinktheSprite --- 4 years ago -

...at least the first 2 years. 

Hiro Protagonist --- 4 years ago -

Who pays? The same people that spent 400 billion on 2500 f-35's. Instead of something like that, you pay for college. Other countries are able to it, are they better than us? I thought we're the best in the world. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 4 years ago -

Other countries are able to it, are they better than us? I thought we're the best in the world.

Not a fair comparison. Most of the countries that do that are 10% or less the population of the U.S. and also land area. Further, those countries have less diverse population and much higher taxes. 

Holling Vincoeur --- 4 years ago -

The same people that spent 400 billion on 2500 f-35's


Or 13 billion on an air craft carrier that can't be used... 

Hiro Protagonist --- 4 years ago -

Most of the countries that do that are 10% or less the population of the U.S. and also land area. Further, those countries have less diverse population and much higher taxes.?


More like those countries aren't spending 400 billion on fighter planes. All it takes is a change in priorities. 

fuzz81 --- 4 years ago -

Not to mention the amount of money in the US is proportionally higher with population. 

Karras --- 4 years ago -

NOBODY complains about paying for public schools, because everyone understands that educating all children is important

The key word is Children. Once you are 18 you are an adult and can choose not to continue with an education. There is no reason why the public should pay for someone's career choice.

If that's the case, then can the money go towards private trade schools for mechanics, welders, truck drivers, etc.?

And if it is free does that mean everyone is accepted? No GPA, SAT requirements?

This is just another goodie to buy votes and for government to keep the masses in perpetual adolescence. 

Miss Understanding --- 4 years ago -

Whom is going to pay for that...



Who is going to pay for that is the correct term. GO directly to middle school, do not pass go, do not collect $200. 

them --- 4 years ago -

More like those countries aren't spending 400 billion on fighter planes. All it takes is a change in priorities.


How much are we spending to protect Canada? 

Miss Understanding --- 4 years ago -

The stinky body part has arrived. 

Karras --- 4 years ago -

Decades ago when the federal government was small and didn't try to take care of everyone from cradle to grave we didn't need it's help in paying for college (among other things).

Now after decades of ruining our country, creating a place where people can't afford college, all they can do is offer to pay for college.

I wish more people would realize that the government is the cause of these problems. 

Miss Understanding --- 4 years ago -

Decades ago when the federal government was small and didn't try to take care of everyone from cradle to grave



What a stupid statement. My family has never received one dollar of any kind of assistance from the government.

All you do is hate. You hate half of the US population. All KU readers can see this. This is your life posting your hatred here every day. Try on a little happiness. It might look good on you.

Practice gratitude!!! 

Prolix Raconteur --- 4 years ago -

Obvious that Karras' statement went way over Miss U's head. The premise of his argument is that the DNC platform continues to preach free EVERYTHING to gather up the votes of the dimwitted. KU's own gossip reporter being a case in point. Can't expect more from someone who spends most of the day keeping up with the Kardashians. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 4 years ago -

What a stupid statement. My family has never received one dollar of any kind of assistance from the government.

Where did anyone say that your family has received any assistance? 

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